TLM Pilgrimage to Rome & the Lay Nobility
Oct 9, 2026 · 32 min · 8 segments
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Oct 9, 2026 · 32 min · 8 segments
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In, in the aforementioned book, you talk about family a lot, and then the... you've got the other text, the, the Latin Mass and the intellectuals.
And a lot of these p- there's, it's either layman or just intellectuals in general, some of them are not even Catholic or not Christian-
some people get annoyed at the argument of, of non-Catholics that, uh, the, the, the traditional Latin Mass, you know, is ancient and it sh- worthy of respect, and it's an artistic, you know, monument and all that sort of thing.
But, um, at the time it was a good argument to make because you couldn't really do, enter into a theological critique of the Novus Ordo [laughs] in 1971, um, against Pope Paul VI, um, because he wasn't, obviously wasn't going to listen to that.
But also, I, I do think it's a, it's a, it's a valid argument that the, the liturgy is a, is a work of art.
And, it, God speaks to us as he speaks through other works of art, you know, sacred art, but also scripture.
Um, uh, the, the works of history and, as on, in, in, in sacred scripture are, are works of art which speak to us, which convey to us God's message.
So why not, you know, why not the liturgy as well? So thinking about it in that way I think is, is quite helpful, that it's, it's, it should be judged, um, and its effectiveness should be judged in that way.
So, um, it's been observed that back in the, in the '60s when they were developing the Novus Ordo it was...
In, in the aforementioned book, you talk about family a lot, and then the... you've got the other text, the, the Latin Mass and the intellectuals.
And a lot of these p- there's, it's either layman or just intellectuals in general, some of them are not even Catholic or not Christian-
some people get annoyed at the argument of, of non-Catholics that, uh, the, the, the traditional Latin Mass, you know, is ancient and it sh- worthy of respect, and it's an artistic, you know, monument and all that sort of thing.
But, um, at the time it was a good argument to make because you couldn't really do, enter into a theological critique of the Novus Ordo [laughs] in 1971, um, against Pope Paul VI, um, because he wasn't, obviously wasn't going to listen to that.
But also, I, I do think it's a, it's a, it's a valid argument that the, the liturgy is a, is a work of art.
And, it, God speaks to us as he speaks through other works of art, you know, sacred art, but also scripture.
Um, uh, the, the works of history and, as on, in, in, in sacred scripture are, are works of art which speak to us, which convey to us God's message.
So why not, you know, why not the liturgy as well? So thinking about it in that way I think is, is quite helpful, that it's, it's, it should be judged, um, and its effectiveness should be judged in that way.
So, um, it's been observed that back in the, in the '60s when they were developing the Novus Ordo it was...
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