Jun 14, 2026 · 3 hr 16 min · 13 segments
ONCE UPON A MUTANT - BUILDING THE OUTBACK TEAM: NEW MUTANTS ANNUAL #2, X-MEN ANNUAL #10, and UNCANNY X-MEN #213-219 (1986-87) Jason R. Lady and The Irredeemable Shag find their joy celebrating a…
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And, you know, people have observed and I think it's true that he was really taking the more lighthearted characters out of.

uh x-men x-men was going down a very dark and gritty road it really had been for a while it was going to get even more so soon and probably looked at it and said you know what if i'm making this more light-hearted more comedic book over here i need to take these couple characters out and you know port them over there and that's really kitty and kurt to be honest with you yeah and you know they fit much better in that kind of environment than any of the other characters would have so That's right.

You know, I think at the time we didn't really know what was going on, but looking back, he was clearly setting up Excalibur.
I always think of Excalibur as one of the early spinoffs, but really it was the fifth one at that point because you had Uncanny X-Men, you had New Mutants, you had X-Factor, and I always forget you had Classic X-Men as well.

And, of course, the powers that be are going to want to make more money, right? Why wouldn't they? I would, too.

They're going to say, hey, do you got another book you could create, Chris? Why, yes, I do.

And the way he did it was putting some sticks of dynamite under the status quo and just blowing it up.

And, you know, people have observed and I think it's true that he was really taking the more lighthearted characters out of.

uh x-men x-men was going down a very dark and gritty road it really had been for a while it was going to get even more so soon and probably looked at it and said you know what if i'm making this more light-hearted more comedic book over here i need to take these couple characters out and you know port them over there and that's really kitty and kurt to be honest with you yeah and you know they fit much better in that kind of environment than any of the other characters would have so That's right.

You know, I think at the time we didn't really know what was going on, but looking back, he was clearly setting up Excalibur.
I always think of Excalibur as one of the early spinoffs, but really it was the fifth one at that point because you had Uncanny X-Men, you had New Mutants, you had X-Factor, and I always forget you had Classic X-Men as well.

And, of course, the powers that be are going to want to make more money, right? Why wouldn't they? I would, too.

They're going to say, hey, do you got another book you could create, Chris? Why, yes, I do.

And the way he did it was putting some sticks of dynamite under the status quo and just blowing it up.
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