Sep 23, 2026 · 10 min · 8 segments
The recent murder-suicide of two Ulster County first responders casts a spotlight on the mental health of people who risk their lives to save others. Mindy Brugger's sister and daughter spoke to…
Sam DingmanHost
Allison KramerGuest
Juan FigueroaGuestHeatherGuest
Connie CarrGuest
James MullenGuest
On Friday, August 21st, Mindy and Jim Brugger were found dead in their home in Plattekill, New York.
Their deaths sparked a conversation about the intense nature of their work and the toll it can take.
Domestic violence, he says, is a chronic problem in the law enforcement community.
He told me he's haunted by an incident from early in his career, one that's eerily similar to the Brugger story.
Back when Juan was a trooper in the late 1980s, he recalls going with his supervisor to visit the home of a fellow trooper who had a violent relationship with his wife.
The same individual basically ended up killing his wife and then killing himself, and that stuck with me.
On Friday, August 21st, Mindy and Jim Brugger were found dead in their home in Plattekill, New York.
Their deaths sparked a conversation about the intense nature of their work and the toll it can take.
Domestic violence, he says, is a chronic problem in the law enforcement community.
He told me he's haunted by an incident from early in his career, one that's eerily similar to the Brugger story.
Back when Juan was a trooper in the late 1980s, he recalls going with his supervisor to visit the home of a fellow trooper who had a violent relationship with his wife.
The same individual basically ended up killing his wife and then killing himself, and that stuck with me.
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