Never Diet Again with Max Lowery
May 4, 2026 · 43 min · 20 segments
What if the thing you’re using to feel better is actually keeping you stuck? In this episode, I’m joined by psychiatrist Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring, who has worked inside Big Pharma and the FDA, and…
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Yeah, and I-- Do you think there's a certain respect that now the patients themselves expect that as well? They d- they don't want to necessarily focus on these things 'cause they're quite hard, you know, to address these root causes.
Um, do you think there's an expectation on the patient front to, to turn up and be given some kind of drug?
I totally get where that comes from, and I mean, who doesn't like something that's, like, you know, quick and easy, right? Like that's-- I think that's just normal human nature.
But I also wanna be a little kind to people because I think what happens really is that these, uh, these quick fix interventions are usually aggressively marketed to people.
I think most people intuitively they're like, "Yeah, I wanna get to the root cause." But if all you hear as you're going through your daily basis that, you know, oh, so many people have anxiety disorder, so many people have, you know, sleep problems and depression, and it's not something to be afraid of, it's not something to be stigmatized, and the-- and taking medication is actually a very modern and responsible way of dealing with your problems 'cause that's very much in the zeitgeist now.
Like, these drugs and the, the money behind them has really shaped the narrative about how we talk about them.
And so I don't blame patients when, you know, they're just like, they're like, "You know, I'm struggling," and then someone says, "Well, go and talk to your doctor," and the doctor's like, "Well, have you thought about taking this medication?" And they say, "Well, you know, he's in the white coat, you know, let's, let's go ahead and do it." And so that's how I see people kind of just get lulled into this.
You know, they, um, you know, they might be doing so many things, like, to kind of really stop and think and kind of put together, like, a plan to figure this out.
And as I mentioned earlier and when I was kind of giving that monologue about what I s- saw in my, um, when I was going through training, like the doctors aren't doing that with them.
I mean, they have 15 minutes, you know? They're not sitting down and, you know, talking about all those things.
So I, I think that's how they end up getting looped into this dysfunctional system.
Yeah, and I-- Do you think there's a certain respect that now the patients themselves expect that as well? They d- they don't want to necessarily focus on these things 'cause they're quite hard, you know, to address these root causes.
Um, do you think there's an expectation on the patient front to, to turn up and be given some kind of drug?
I totally get where that comes from, and I mean, who doesn't like something that's, like, you know, quick and easy, right? Like that's-- I think that's just normal human nature.
But I also wanna be a little kind to people because I think what happens really is that these, uh, these quick fix interventions are usually aggressively marketed to people.
I think most people intuitively they're like, "Yeah, I wanna get to the root cause." But if all you hear as you're going through your daily basis that, you know, oh, so many people have anxiety disorder, so many people have, you know, sleep problems and depression, and it's not something to be afraid of, it's not something to be stigmatized, and the-- and taking medication is actually a very modern and responsible way of dealing with your problems 'cause that's very much in the zeitgeist now.
Like, these drugs and the, the money behind them has really shaped the narrative about how we talk about them.
And so I don't blame patients when, you know, they're just like, they're like, "You know, I'm struggling," and then someone says, "Well, go and talk to your doctor," and the doctor's like, "Well, have you thought about taking this medication?" And they say, "Well, you know, he's in the white coat, you know, let's, let's go ahead and do it." And so that's how I see people kind of just get lulled into this.
You know, they, um, you know, they might be doing so many things, like, to kind of really stop and think and kind of put together, like, a plan to figure this out.
And as I mentioned earlier and when I was kind of giving that monologue about what I s- saw in my, um, when I was going through training, like the doctors aren't doing that with them.
I mean, they have 15 minutes, you know? They're not sitting down and, you know, talking about all those things.
So I, I think that's how they end up getting looped into this dysfunctional system.
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