Jun 23, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 11 segments
*My Summer Lair* host Sammy Younan talks to the director David Shadrack Smith and the producer Anne-Marcelle Ngabirano of *Public Access:* a public access documentary that screened during Hot Docs…
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I like stuff like this, like, or like, you know what I mean? I like this intersection of like freedom and having fun, but also it's like taste.

And I think too, like, you know, one of the themes I wrote down when I was watching your documentary is also people don't realize like the level of craft that's involved in a lot of stuff.

Like people think that like a standup comic just goes up and makes jokes and what about this? But it's like, they're writing and they're observing and they're engaging people.

And like, there's all this kind of like lead up work that, Before they go up and make a bit.

And I think sometimes too, with like the idea of public access, like let's just get people cameras and they'll turn them on and then we'll see what happens.

Like, I don't know what quote unquote good television is, but like whatever that means, but like, yeah, you still need to have a level of craft or level of vision to get there.
I was just thinking about like maybe podcasts are the closest thing we have right now to public access.

I like stuff like this, like, or like, you know what I mean? I like this intersection of like freedom and having fun, but also it's like taste.

And I think too, like, you know, one of the themes I wrote down when I was watching your documentary is also people don't realize like the level of craft that's involved in a lot of stuff.

Like people think that like a standup comic just goes up and makes jokes and what about this? But it's like, they're writing and they're observing and they're engaging people.

And like, there's all this kind of like lead up work that, Before they go up and make a bit.

And I think sometimes too, with like the idea of public access, like let's just get people cameras and they'll turn them on and then we'll see what happens.

Like, I don't know what quote unquote good television is, but like whatever that means, but like, yeah, you still need to have a level of craft or level of vision to get there.
I was just thinking about like maybe podcasts are the closest thing we have right now to public access.
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