More Than Just Code podcast - iOS, visionOS and Swift development, news and advice
Jun 8, 2026 · 1 hr 19 min · 22 segments
Cristian Diaz joins Tim to discuss his application Gantry, which helps create resources for spatial computing…
Cristian DiazGuestTim MitraHostYou know, we, we, uh, we, we do a, a spatial FaceTime so we can actually see each other, and it's like we're in the same room with each other even though we're in different time zones and different countries and different continents.
Like we're across three continents, right? Um, and, um, you know, we share, uh, photos, we share app ideas, we talk about Vision Pro quite a lot, right? So, and that's, I mean, that's a completely unique experience that doesn't exist anywhere else that I know of, right? I mean, that's, that's-
So to me, in the Spatial Personas is, and yeah, the teleportation, right, is like I've been able to, to have you here, right, and be friends all these years, right?
And, and having you in my living room and, and seeing your room and seeing you like walking the stairs and going for coffee-
... how the conversation also, um, flows, right? It's like, uh, I can focus and talk with you, make jokes and point, and there is so many subtleties that, that at the end it, it becomes like, um, yeah, it's completely different and, and better than, than talking on FaceTime in 2D.
When we started, uh, Greenest Bird, uh, Roxana was living in Dubai, and we did the whole game, uh, with this two hours of difference and, and doing the standups every single day using, uh, the Vision Pro.
And we tried to go back, we have the Google Work group, and we tried to go to Google Meet even with the Vision Pro.
... we could bring assets from the game and move them, right, and point and make comments on it.
It's like I want this thing to be bigger, right, and experience the spaces and things that you cannot really transmit.
And, and I, I easily would say that it would not have been possible to make The Greenest Bird without being able to communicate on a Spatial Personas.
So yeah, s- spatial computing itself is, yeah, it's, it's definitely a thing.
Yeah, I think you're -- I mean, I, I join every Zoom call I can with the Vision Pro 'cause just, I just find it so much easier to do, right? Um, I'm actually currently working on a, on a em- uh, enterprise job where I have an enterprise managed Mac, and I cannot get it to display on my Vision Pro which is so frustrating.
You know, 'cause every now and then you just wanna have a big screen in front of you, right? But, but, um, y- I think you're probably the only person I know of that, that has done, uh, dogfooding your own app, right? And, and, you know, working, using the Vision Pro and using Spatial Persona during a working session, right? So it's not the same as, as, uh, going on, um-
You know, we, we, uh, we, we do a, a spatial FaceTime so we can actually see each other, and it's like we're in the same room with each other even though we're in different time zones and different countries and different continents.
Like we're across three continents, right? Um, and, um, you know, we share, uh, photos, we share app ideas, we talk about Vision Pro quite a lot, right? So, and that's, I mean, that's a completely unique experience that doesn't exist anywhere else that I know of, right? I mean, that's, that's-
So to me, in the Spatial Personas is, and yeah, the teleportation, right, is like I've been able to, to have you here, right, and be friends all these years, right?
And, and having you in my living room and, and seeing your room and seeing you like walking the stairs and going for coffee-
... how the conversation also, um, flows, right? It's like, uh, I can focus and talk with you, make jokes and point, and there is so many subtleties that, that at the end it, it becomes like, um, yeah, it's completely different and, and better than, than talking on FaceTime in 2D.
When we started, uh, Greenest Bird, uh, Roxana was living in Dubai, and we did the whole game, uh, with this two hours of difference and, and doing the standups every single day using, uh, the Vision Pro.
And we tried to go back, we have the Google Work group, and we tried to go to Google Meet even with the Vision Pro.
... we could bring assets from the game and move them, right, and point and make comments on it.
It's like I want this thing to be bigger, right, and experience the spaces and things that you cannot really transmit.
And, and I, I easily would say that it would not have been possible to make The Greenest Bird without being able to communicate on a Spatial Personas.
So yeah, s- spatial computing itself is, yeah, it's, it's definitely a thing.
Yeah, I think you're -- I mean, I, I join every Zoom call I can with the Vision Pro 'cause just, I just find it so much easier to do, right? Um, I'm actually currently working on a, on a em- uh, enterprise job where I have an enterprise managed Mac, and I cannot get it to display on my Vision Pro which is so frustrating.
You know, 'cause every now and then you just wanna have a big screen in front of you, right? But, but, um, y- I think you're probably the only person I know of that, that has done, uh, dogfooding your own app, right? And, and, you know, working, using the Vision Pro and using Spatial Persona during a working session, right? So it's not the same as, as, uh, going on, um-
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