Jul 24, 2026 · 26 min · 10 segments
What if one of the biggest mistakes we make as engineers isn't confined to engineering? This episode explores anti-immigrant sentiment in the United States and South Africa—not to debate politics or…
Paulin KantueHost
So I think the problem is visible, right? It's obviously something that we need to be clear about.

We're talking about rising frustrations, people chanting on the street, economic pressure, social division, anti-immigrant sentiment.

Of course, I can't speak too much about America, but for sure I can speak a lot about South Africa, as most of you know.

And, of course, as a foreigner, as an immigrant, I did feel, you know, constantly there's an anti-immigrant sentiment, but it's more than that.

And one of the things that I believe is at the cornerstone of all these problems is government failure.

The decline was obvious, you know, in the schooling system, the universities, you know, the health system, the ability to just get health back.

the freedom you know to go to a park and play and now it's not something that i will ever ask my child nobody allows their children to play in the park by themselves in any part of south africa unless it's a gated community so there's a lot of things that in my view are centralized that are not always visible and that's hence the the slide it's all about kind of the visible problem is something that we can see and this frustration is obviously there And it's something that we definitely need to talk about.

But as an engineer, you've got to think outside the box, right? You've got to look at things in a different way.

I think from an MBSC perspective, from a model-based system engineering perspective, like I said, anti-immigrant sentiment is not the system.

So I think the problem is visible, right? It's obviously something that we need to be clear about.

We're talking about rising frustrations, people chanting on the street, economic pressure, social division, anti-immigrant sentiment.

Of course, I can't speak too much about America, but for sure I can speak a lot about South Africa, as most of you know.

And, of course, as a foreigner, as an immigrant, I did feel, you know, constantly there's an anti-immigrant sentiment, but it's more than that.

And one of the things that I believe is at the cornerstone of all these problems is government failure.

The decline was obvious, you know, in the schooling system, the universities, you know, the health system, the ability to just get health back.

the freedom you know to go to a park and play and now it's not something that i will ever ask my child nobody allows their children to play in the park by themselves in any part of south africa unless it's a gated community so there's a lot of things that in my view are centralized that are not always visible and that's hence the the slide it's all about kind of the visible problem is something that we can see and this frustration is obviously there And it's something that we definitely need to talk about.

But as an engineer, you've got to think outside the box, right? You've got to look at things in a different way.

I think from an MBSC perspective, from a model-based system engineering perspective, like I said, anti-immigrant sentiment is not the system.
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