Where Wealth Really Comes From
Vu asks philanthropy to confront wealth's origins.
Sep 8, 2026 · 19 min · 9 segments
In this episode, we’re joined by writer and provocateur **Vu Le**, who brings his trademark humor and candor to some of philanthropy’s most entrenched problems. We talk about “snowflake” grant…
Vu LeGuest
Sadaf Rassoul CameronHost
Arianne ShafferHostThere's a conversation about having God, I haven't actually heard somebody say this in a really long time.
But the universal application, is that something you're in favor of? I just one for all.
Like, how would you like how would you do it in a different way? Because often we do want to be in partnership with people right on some sort of a level.

Well, the universal application has always been problematic because, again, funders still believe that they deserve their own special consideration.

So what happened when people have tried it was that I think there was one group in some state that tried this where they had a universal application.

And I think about this one funder who called me up one time and was like, Vu, we really like what you're doing at your organization.

Can you just find a grant application that you wrote for someone else and just forward the whole thing to us? Don't even worry about changing the name of that other funder.

And I was searched through my phone and found this proposal that I spent about 40 hours writing that had like a 10 page narrative, 12 attachments, a bespoke budget, a work plan, a theory of change, a logic model, the blood type of every board member for some reason.
There's a conversation about having God, I haven't actually heard somebody say this in a really long time.
But the universal application, is that something you're in favor of? I just one for all.
Like, how would you like how would you do it in a different way? Because often we do want to be in partnership with people right on some sort of a level.

Well, the universal application has always been problematic because, again, funders still believe that they deserve their own special consideration.

So what happened when people have tried it was that I think there was one group in some state that tried this where they had a universal application.

And I think about this one funder who called me up one time and was like, Vu, we really like what you're doing at your organization.

Can you just find a grant application that you wrote for someone else and just forward the whole thing to us? Don't even worry about changing the name of that other funder.

And I was searched through my phone and found this proposal that I spent about 40 hours writing that had like a 10 page narrative, 12 attachments, a bespoke budget, a work plan, a theory of change, a logic model, the blood type of every board member for some reason.
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Where Wealth Really Comes From
Vu asks philanthropy to confront wealth's origins.
The Rejection Meeting
A grant meeting became an expensive rejection.
The Three-Minute Grant Application
One funder finally made reporting almost painless.
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