And I think what's so interesting listening to you guys talk, and what I just see is this, like, gaping void really for families, is just understanding baby sleep-
Mm
... because it is so different to us.
And I feel like I learnt that the really hard way [laughs] like with our first.
Mm.
Mm.
And it took us to, like, breaking point with sleep to then think, like, this just can't be, how-
Yeah
... how this is.
And I think I'm such, so passionate about evidence-based information and-
Mm
... women understanding their bodies.
And I just think-
Mm
... there's this big void.
And then understanding your baby at this, this crit- like, food and sleep, that is the-
Yeah
... main thing, isn't it, in that initial newborn period.
Yeah.
That is what they do.
They eat, sleep, poo.
That's, these three pillars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think actually for families to understand in that fourth trimester, this is what's safe, this is what we should expect.
And I think what's so interesting listening to you guys talk, and what I just see is this, like, gaping void really for families, is just understanding baby sleep-
Mm
... because it is so different to us.
And I feel like I learnt that the really hard way [laughs] like with our first.
Mm.
Mm.
And it took us to, like, breaking point with sleep to then think, like, this just can't be, how-
Yeah
... how this is.
And I think I'm such, so passionate about evidence-based information and-
Mm
... women understanding their bodies.
And I just think-
Mm
... there's this big void.
And then understanding your baby at this, this crit- like, food and sleep, that is the-
Yeah
... main thing, isn't it, in that initial newborn period.
Yeah.
That is what they do.
They eat, sleep, poo.
That's, these three pillars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think actually for families to understand in that fourth trimester, this is what's safe, this is what we should expect.
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