Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family
Jun 22, 2026 · 1 hr 25 min · 16 segments
When you feel you can't give any more, ask yourself, "Can I say YES to one act of connection?" - Pat and Kenna Millea ### Summary If you've ever wondered why communication in marriage can feel so…
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Pat MilleaGuestAlicia HernonHost
Kenna MilleaGuestMike HernonHost... that cause conflict, um, as, as couples are trying to create unity, right?
... create emotional unity and that, and that physical unity, and we, we are two different people.
We are a man and a woman, you know? And, and sometimes you can be like, "Ah, why is this so hard?"
And I feel like some people, you expect that things like communication or marriage or parenting should come naturally-
Even the physical intimacy, we have to learn, um, over time and even from the wisdom of others, you know? And I think sometimes we forget about that.
... that cause conflict, um, as, as couples are trying to create unity, right?
... create emotional unity and that, and that physical unity, and we, we are two different people.
We are a man and a woman, you know? And, and sometimes you can be like, "Ah, why is this so hard?"
And I feel like some people, you expect that things like communication or marriage or parenting should come naturally-
Even the physical intimacy, we have to learn, um, over time and even from the wisdom of others, you know? And I think sometimes we forget about that.
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