Sep 24, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min · 13 segments
**Peter Thiel on AI, Trump, democracy and the future of the West.** In a wide-ranging conversation with Mathias Döpfner, the Silicon Valley investor warns that Europe is falling dramatically behind…
Peter ThielGuest
Mathias DöpfnerHost
Do you see similar things? Is there any evidence for that? Do you believe that? What's your take?
I'm also inclined to think that that's not the main factor driving it, that it's, uh, it's mainly, this is mainly what we're doing to ourselves.
You know, there's a way, there's a way, um, you know, there's a way I'm tempted to say that, you know, Greta is working for the Chinese communists, and maybe, maybe she is, but, uh, she's more of a problem we've created for, for ourselves in the West.
But is Greta's influence on the American sentiment that big? I mean, I'm surprised now after that-
Um, but, but yeah, it's, it's-- I, I, I think, I think there are so many of these things that we're, we're doing to ourselves.
I think, I think we need to take the, uh, you know, the, the competition, the rivalry with China very seriously.
Yeah, but then why is it so negative at the moment in the US? I mean, I really have the, uh, feeling that if we are talking to our European colleagues about AI, uh, as long as they are enabled to learn and participate in the journey, they're actually pretty positive.
So it is almost a very anti, I mean, anti-cliche of, uh, being American, yeah.
Usually, America is perceived to be pro-technology, pro-progress, and in that case, it is a bit the other way around.
The next election cam- ca- campaign could be, to a degree, even a campaign which political party is protecting their people better against AI.
Why is there such an anti-AI sentiment in America? Do they know more about it than the Europeans, or has the American mentality changed? What's happening?
Do you see similar things? Is there any evidence for that? Do you believe that? What's your take?
I'm also inclined to think that that's not the main factor driving it, that it's, uh, it's mainly, this is mainly what we're doing to ourselves.
You know, there's a way, there's a way, um, you know, there's a way I'm tempted to say that, you know, Greta is working for the Chinese communists, and maybe, maybe she is, but, uh, she's more of a problem we've created for, for ourselves in the West.
But is Greta's influence on the American sentiment that big? I mean, I'm surprised now after that-
Um, but, but yeah, it's, it's-- I, I, I think, I think there are so many of these things that we're, we're doing to ourselves.
I think, I think we need to take the, uh, you know, the, the competition, the rivalry with China very seriously.
Yeah, but then why is it so negative at the moment in the US? I mean, I really have the, uh, feeling that if we are talking to our European colleagues about AI, uh, as long as they are enabled to learn and participate in the journey, they're actually pretty positive.
So it is almost a very anti, I mean, anti-cliche of, uh, being American, yeah.
Usually, America is perceived to be pro-technology, pro-progress, and in that case, it is a bit the other way around.
The next election cam- ca- campaign could be, to a degree, even a campaign which political party is protecting their people better against AI.
Why is there such an anti-AI sentiment in America? Do they know more about it than the Europeans, or has the American mentality changed? What's happening?
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