Sep 9, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 13 segments
What if some of the “lost” or “banned” gospels actually tell us more about the real Jesus than the Bible does? It’s a claim that continues to resurface—and a recent viral conversation on The Joe Rogan…
The Joes, I'm just gonna call them the Joes, by the way, 'cause they're, they're first-
Yeah, it's just easier to do that than to try to say Esterhaus's last name, and it's, to me, just really hard to pronounce for some reason.
And so, yeah, but they're here, they're talking about how there seems to have been a shift even just recently from people...
Um, and now there seems to be an increased openness to it, but a lot of it has kinda go- gone in peaks and valleys and ebbs and flows for the last 30 to 40 years.
Maybe just helpful for context if you could give people kind of a little bit of, like, some of that ebb and flow and what that's looked like.
So, uh, Aaron Renn, he has a framework that basically explains, uh, that there's been three different ways in which Christianity has been perceived by culture here in the US, at least in the last 40 to 50 years.
This is basically a time where, generally speaking, in our American culture, uh, culture had a positive view of Christianity.
So if you're a Christian, hey, that's actually socially advantageous towards you.
Uh, it is good for you, you know, for society, for, for Christians to kinda be around, good for you to go to church.
The Joes, I'm just gonna call them the Joes, by the way, 'cause they're, they're first-
Yeah, it's just easier to do that than to try to say Esterhaus's last name, and it's, to me, just really hard to pronounce for some reason.
And so, yeah, but they're here, they're talking about how there seems to have been a shift even just recently from people...
Um, and now there seems to be an increased openness to it, but a lot of it has kinda go- gone in peaks and valleys and ebbs and flows for the last 30 to 40 years.
Maybe just helpful for context if you could give people kind of a little bit of, like, some of that ebb and flow and what that's looked like.
So, uh, Aaron Renn, he has a framework that basically explains, uh, that there's been three different ways in which Christianity has been perceived by culture here in the US, at least in the last 40 to 50 years.
This is basically a time where, generally speaking, in our American culture, uh, culture had a positive view of Christianity.
So if you're a Christian, hey, that's actually socially advantageous towards you.
Uh, it is good for you, you know, for society, for, for Christians to kinda be around, good for you to go to church.
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