Jun 3, 2026 · 56 min · 12 segments
In this episode we finish Chapter III, continuing from the subsection "Some Motivations and Powers of the Model So Far", and sharing our reflections and amazements of what Gendlin has accomplished in…
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Nicholas MontañoHost
Joey MassengaleHost
When I say that a missing and implied end aspect has a role, a function, a meaning, that it has the role of a symbol to the body, My too early use of these terms is deliberate.
The too early use is part of the project to create an alternative model in which we define living bodies in such a way that one of them can be ours.
From the start, let us develop concepts of body and environment that can apply also to our own bodies.
Since our human bodies have environments including species, members, and other objects, meanings, and symbols, we know that living bodies can have objects, meanings, and symbols.
So let us therefore not build the basic terms in our model in a way that makes our own body seem impossible from the start.
um yeah that feels great um it's almost like something like tell me if this sounds right to you joey like okay so on the one hand we want to have some basics here start primitive because we're trying to understand organisms period so we need to go back pretty far to understand organisms and on the other hand we know that organisms arrive to something that has symbol and meaning and is us and we're living it so we if we want to explain that like we need to start with what we already know from the start let us develop concepts of body and environment that can apply also to our own bodies so somehow he's playing both sides in a beautiful way let's start with the richness while at the same time trying to work at the very basics It's a, it's a really, oh man, so interesting.
because, because if we, if we, if we lose either, then, then how can we do the whole trajectory in earnest? Almost to say
continue, um, paragraph two of this subsection on page 17, since we humans are here, we can be certain that we are not impossible.
beautiful take that Descartes a concept sorry a conceptual there's nothing to do with Descartes uh marker cut that a conceptual model of quote reality that makes us seem impossible has to have something wrong with it.
How obvious a conceptual model of quote, reality that makes us with all the things we know we have, it seem impossible has to have something wrong with it.
When I say that a missing and implied end aspect has a role, a function, a meaning, that it has the role of a symbol to the body, My too early use of these terms is deliberate.
The too early use is part of the project to create an alternative model in which we define living bodies in such a way that one of them can be ours.
From the start, let us develop concepts of body and environment that can apply also to our own bodies.
Since our human bodies have environments including species, members, and other objects, meanings, and symbols, we know that living bodies can have objects, meanings, and symbols.
So let us therefore not build the basic terms in our model in a way that makes our own body seem impossible from the start.
um yeah that feels great um it's almost like something like tell me if this sounds right to you joey like okay so on the one hand we want to have some basics here start primitive because we're trying to understand organisms period so we need to go back pretty far to understand organisms and on the other hand we know that organisms arrive to something that has symbol and meaning and is us and we're living it so we if we want to explain that like we need to start with what we already know from the start let us develop concepts of body and environment that can apply also to our own bodies so somehow he's playing both sides in a beautiful way let's start with the richness while at the same time trying to work at the very basics It's a, it's a really, oh man, so interesting.
because, because if we, if we, if we lose either, then, then how can we do the whole trajectory in earnest? Almost to say
continue, um, paragraph two of this subsection on page 17, since we humans are here, we can be certain that we are not impossible.
beautiful take that Descartes a concept sorry a conceptual there's nothing to do with Descartes uh marker cut that a conceptual model of quote reality that makes us seem impossible has to have something wrong with it.
How obvious a conceptual model of quote, reality that makes us with all the things we know we have, it seem impossible has to have something wrong with it.
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