Gift, gift, get

And they, whenever I doubted myself, Sally was like, ah, you can do it.

You built a huge desk, a huge desk.

Yeah.

And

that's why the bio I wanted to write about you and the crazy, it's not crazy, but people would have felt that, you know, you've built, Talenza's this fantastic brand that the boys have built up.

Yeah.

You know, it's been great.

They've built something.

But you were part of that.

And to leave that organisation to do the crazy thing that so many people want to do, but they don't do it.

What was that driver for you to walk away from something that probably would have felt quite comfortable, quite reassuring because you've got people that believe in you and they still do.

Yeah.

What was that? Where was that decision come from?

Oh, it was so hard.

And I remember when I resigned, I walked into the boardroom and I just immediately burst into tears.

I hadn't even said anything.

And he was like, it's okay, it's okay.

I said, no, it's not okay.

I'm leaving.

I'm so sorry.

It was probably COVID that showed me, actually, I can do this on my own because all of a sudden we were working from home and things kind of kept going because I realized, oh, the relationships I've built, people work with me as an individual, no matter where I work.

And as a German, I'm very diligent with my processes and the things I need to do day in and day out.

And I realized, oh, actually I'm kind of doing this on my own already.

And then Once the thought was in my head, I was like, well, I've got to do this now.

Otherwise I'm always going to regret it.