Mar 15, 2026 · 17 min · 7 segments
March 15, 2026 Friendly Excursions into Disequilibrium Enforced harmony is counterproductive. Pushing students (or employees) to come to agreement prematurely tends to undermine learning (or produce…
So the first possibility that teachers and sometimes managers extend is the idea that you're supposed to all come to an agreement by the time the meeting is over.
And I suppose in a classroom setting, it's better that everybody comes to a real consensus where people say, yes, I agree, that's better than voting.
But premature consensus, where it's kind of enforced harmony, that's not really an incubator of good decision-making, effective problem-solving.
You know, companies that force everybody to agree on something tend to be tamping down objections because people don't want to be the one to hold up the decision and make the meeting last even longer, you know? Enforced harmony is how you get the Bay of Pigs invasion or the flammable Ford Pinto or something.
Alfred Sloan, who ran General Motors a hundred years ago, famously said to the board of directors, I take it we're all in complete agreement on this decision? Yeah? All right, in that case, let's postpone further discussion of the matter until our next meeting to give ourselves time to develop disagreement and perhaps gain some understanding of what the decision is all about.
But not that many managers, facilitators, or teachers have that understanding that when everybody seems to be in complete agreement, that's when it's time to worry.
Sometimes it's just a matter of forcing, manipulating everybody to come to the predetermined decision or outcome that the leader or instructor wanted.
And many people are conflict avoidant for various reasons, some having to do with how they were raised, and sometimes it's just because they think conflict is a bad thing.
I would argue it isn't, unless you're defining conflict as something really unpleasant involving control or the abuse of power or manipulation or something like that.
But conflict, the idea that we're pushing back on each other is not necessarily a bad thing.
And sometimes the absence of conflict may mean that people aren't that interested in what they're doing and they say, fine, I'm happy to sign off on that, which is not a good thing.
Or it could mean a lack of gumption where people are unwilling to stand up and say, no, I'm sorry, I can't go along with that, which is what we're looking for and hoping, I think, to promote in kids as well.
The absence of conflict in a classroom means you're not getting a full measure of learning.
That's partly why the progressive leaders like Dewey and Piaget thought that collaboration in the classroom, cooperative learning is so important is precisely because it permits this kind of give and take to stretch your thinking, to push and be pushed by each other to end up with a more sophisticated understanding.
So the question then is, when does that turn sour? When does it go south? And the answer, I believe, is with that option number two, the main alternative to reaching premature consensus, which is debate.
So the first possibility that teachers and sometimes managers extend is the idea that you're supposed to all come to an agreement by the time the meeting is over.
And I suppose in a classroom setting, it's better that everybody comes to a real consensus where people say, yes, I agree, that's better than voting.
But premature consensus, where it's kind of enforced harmony, that's not really an incubator of good decision-making, effective problem-solving.
You know, companies that force everybody to agree on something tend to be tamping down objections because people don't want to be the one to hold up the decision and make the meeting last even longer, you know? Enforced harmony is how you get the Bay of Pigs invasion or the flammable Ford Pinto or something.
Alfred Sloan, who ran General Motors a hundred years ago, famously said to the board of directors, I take it we're all in complete agreement on this decision? Yeah? All right, in that case, let's postpone further discussion of the matter until our next meeting to give ourselves time to develop disagreement and perhaps gain some understanding of what the decision is all about.
But not that many managers, facilitators, or teachers have that understanding that when everybody seems to be in complete agreement, that's when it's time to worry.
Sometimes it's just a matter of forcing, manipulating everybody to come to the predetermined decision or outcome that the leader or instructor wanted.
And many people are conflict avoidant for various reasons, some having to do with how they were raised, and sometimes it's just because they think conflict is a bad thing.
I would argue it isn't, unless you're defining conflict as something really unpleasant involving control or the abuse of power or manipulation or something like that.
But conflict, the idea that we're pushing back on each other is not necessarily a bad thing.
And sometimes the absence of conflict may mean that people aren't that interested in what they're doing and they say, fine, I'm happy to sign off on that, which is not a good thing.
Or it could mean a lack of gumption where people are unwilling to stand up and say, no, I'm sorry, I can't go along with that, which is what we're looking for and hoping, I think, to promote in kids as well.
The absence of conflict in a classroom means you're not getting a full measure of learning.
That's partly why the progressive leaders like Dewey and Piaget thought that collaboration in the classroom, cooperative learning is so important is precisely because it permits this kind of give and take to stretch your thinking, to push and be pushed by each other to end up with a more sophisticated understanding.
So the question then is, when does that turn sour? When does it go south? And the answer, I believe, is with that option number two, the main alternative to reaching premature consensus, which is debate.
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