Aug 18, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min · 16 segments
This episode of the *Irregular Warfare Podcast* concludes our four-part *Future of War* series, pairing author and futurist August Cole with senior special operations leaders to explore how tomorrow’s…
August ColeGuest
Gil FergusonGuest
Ben JebbHost
David WaldoGuest
[gentle music] If you went to look at the, you know, antecedents of special operations organizations, you know, you would dynamite the, the, the facility, you know, if it was a World War II, you know, type, type reconnaissance/raid.

But we're in this era where it may be that the most important, you know, quote unquote, "ammunition" in a conflict is data.

But there were a lot of aspects of it that weren't highly com- complicated because we were able to buy down so much risk by dominating so many of the domains.

Now, a lot of these formations that are led by people who knew nothing but the GWOT, right? Uh, we're training...

We're, we're expecting formations to train for a much more lethal battlefield where we will not dominate the domains.

And when you say it like that, people are always kinda taken back, like, "Love? You gotta be able to visit violence upon those that deserve it," and all that.

But, but no, it's this great warrior love that's defined in between the, the sound of a 762 millimeter projectile breaking the sound barrier, and the only thing that matters is that of which is at your shoulder.
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