Jun 11, 2026 · 58 min · 13 segments
Episode Two is a deep dive into the *other* host of **Into a Darker Wilderness**, Michael Kleber-Diggs, author of the poetry collection Worldly Things…
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Michael Kleber-DiggsHost
Erin SharkeyHostSo this is a poem called "Prestidigitation," which I first started working on when we were in the Givens Fellowship.
On a day too hot for clouds, wind, or eight-year-olds, our grandfather took my brother and me fishing at an overstocked pond just outside Wichita.
Our dad was gone now, unmade instantly by a man with his finger on a trigger.
I remember his massive hands so sure at the wheel, each round knuckle witness to his life of labor.
My grandfather's name was Arthur, and he talked all the time about his arthritis, but pronounced it arthitis.
So for months, I thought it was a condition unique to him, that he had his own special burden, just like my brother and me.
I remember the truck's cabin engulfed by his musk, his aftershave with hints of cedarwood and tonka, his brandy breath, Prince Albert fuming perpetually from his pipe.
We walked to a shed and found a man about my grandfather's age, his face red like a traffic light.
I was afraid, so I watched Grandfather disregard its barbels and free it from the hook with casual ease, his hands calloused and rough, impervious to whips and stings.
Between the three of us, we caught eight fish that day, eight good catfish.
Brother and I knew enough not to complain about the heat, but this was an early lesson, and this was a time for grace.
So this is a poem called "Prestidigitation," which I first started working on when we were in the Givens Fellowship.
On a day too hot for clouds, wind, or eight-year-olds, our grandfather took my brother and me fishing at an overstocked pond just outside Wichita.
Our dad was gone now, unmade instantly by a man with his finger on a trigger.
I remember his massive hands so sure at the wheel, each round knuckle witness to his life of labor.
My grandfather's name was Arthur, and he talked all the time about his arthritis, but pronounced it arthitis.
So for months, I thought it was a condition unique to him, that he had his own special burden, just like my brother and me.
I remember the truck's cabin engulfed by his musk, his aftershave with hints of cedarwood and tonka, his brandy breath, Prince Albert fuming perpetually from his pipe.
We walked to a shed and found a man about my grandfather's age, his face red like a traffic light.
I was afraid, so I watched Grandfather disregard its barbels and free it from the hook with casual ease, his hands calloused and rough, impervious to whips and stings.
Between the three of us, we caught eight fish that day, eight good catfish.
Brother and I knew enough not to complain about the heat, but this was an early lesson, and this was a time for grace.
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