Sep 11, 2026 · 19 min · 9 segments
Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says Australia has become 'The Complacent Country' with Donald Horne's 'Lucky Country' tag now well past its use by date. The episode discusses Mr Rudd's industry…
James RileyHost
Kevin Rudd at the Press Club was fascinating for anyone who is in this industry, who's been pushing for industry development support policies everywhere.

Kevin Rudd, as a former prime minister, his words obviously carry a lot of weight.


And the third one being climate change, which includes energy and the energy transition and the geopolitical ramifications of that.

So those three big megatrends all, according to Kevin Rudd, result in this much more need for focused effort in national security and economic resilience.
He also had some words to say about, you know, needed to change the national mindset, including within Treasury.
I thought some of those comments were very interesting, touching on there about building it into economic thinking a bit more seamlessly.
This is the paper that they've done for the treasurer, head of the intergenerational report later this week.
And again, in that report, there was a disconnect, I think, between the productivity piece and what AI means for that, and then how we might build the economy through the sovereign stack, everything that basically the system minister for technology, Andrew Charlton, has been talking about at least a year now, So yeah, I thought that was really interesting that he pulled that out.


Elsewhere, industry being one, it's all about building local companies, local capability, and enjoying the productivity and wealth creation benefits of that.

It's interesting, actually, also, he kind of got shirty through the Q&A after his speech because people weren't asking him specifically about the industrial policy positions that he had put forward.

Kevin Rudd at the Press Club was fascinating for anyone who is in this industry, who's been pushing for industry development support policies everywhere.

Kevin Rudd, as a former prime minister, his words obviously carry a lot of weight.


And the third one being climate change, which includes energy and the energy transition and the geopolitical ramifications of that.

So those three big megatrends all, according to Kevin Rudd, result in this much more need for focused effort in national security and economic resilience.
He also had some words to say about, you know, needed to change the national mindset, including within Treasury.
I thought some of those comments were very interesting, touching on there about building it into economic thinking a bit more seamlessly.
This is the paper that they've done for the treasurer, head of the intergenerational report later this week.
And again, in that report, there was a disconnect, I think, between the productivity piece and what AI means for that, and then how we might build the economy through the sovereign stack, everything that basically the system minister for technology, Andrew Charlton, has been talking about at least a year now, So yeah, I thought that was really interesting that he pulled that out.


Elsewhere, industry being one, it's all about building local companies, local capability, and enjoying the productivity and wealth creation benefits of that.

It's interesting, actually, also, he kind of got shirty through the Q&A after his speech because people weren't asking him specifically about the industrial policy positions that he had put forward.
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