Jul 7, 2026 · 1 hr 27 min · 11 segments
In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Michael Shermer, founder of Skeptic Magazine and the Skeptics Society, opens up about his personal journey from born-again Christian to one of the world’s most…
Michael ShermerGuest
Tim GaborHost
And at that time, I grew up in a household that was enthralled by the UAP story, the ET story.

And so we saw a lot of you on TV, Larry King, History Channel, all the major networks.

And because of the format at the time, very short segments, there was a very specific narrative or image painted in terms of what you brought to the table when it comes to extraordinary claims.

So I'd I'd love to get to know you a little bit better, how you got to where you are today.

And of course, we're going to talk about the UAP Science Advisory Council, which was just convened on the request of the Trump administration, which is chaired by Dr. Avi Loeb, other fantastic scientists, Dr. Gary Nolan, Dr. Matthew Shadag, who I've had the pleasure of interviewing.

Now, so before we get to that, though, what was life like for young Michael Shermer pre-skeptic society?
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