IN IT with Jordan Harper and Ashley Buckler
Jun 30, 2026 · 41 min · 13 segments
You've read the books. You've done the work. You know better, and you still can't shake it. This episode is our season one finale, and it's one of the most honest conversations we've had this season…
And I had this moment this year where I was sitting in my backyard, the sun is shining down, we've got a picnic blanket down.
I just felt extreme peace, extreme joy, and I was just looking at him almost as if I'm watching a movie, and I felt like I was having this out-of-body experience of watching my life unfold before my eyes.
And then instantly I felt fear because any time we feel immense joy, vulnerability sits next to that.
And I was overcome with fear, and my inner world started to feel panicked, and my mind was racing.
It always, for me, is like, starts in my head, goes to my chest, then it goes into a pit in my stomach, and it's this feeling of like something is wrong or something-
... something that I like to joke about myself is I call myself Death Barbie, which is like [laughs] if you've seen the Barbie movie, she's dancing and she's having the time of her life, and then she turns to her friends and she's like, "Do you guys ever think about death?"
And they're like, "What?" [laughs] And I feel like Death Barbie sometimes because I can be having, like, immense joy, and then I can, in an instant, switch over to having fear.
It's a nervous system reaction that I lose control of, and my mind, like, cannot unthink the way I'm feeling.
And I had this moment this year where I was sitting in my backyard, the sun is shining down, we've got a picnic blanket down.
I just felt extreme peace, extreme joy, and I was just looking at him almost as if I'm watching a movie, and I felt like I was having this out-of-body experience of watching my life unfold before my eyes.
And then instantly I felt fear because any time we feel immense joy, vulnerability sits next to that.
And I was overcome with fear, and my inner world started to feel panicked, and my mind was racing.
It always, for me, is like, starts in my head, goes to my chest, then it goes into a pit in my stomach, and it's this feeling of like something is wrong or something-
... something that I like to joke about myself is I call myself Death Barbie, which is like [laughs] if you've seen the Barbie movie, she's dancing and she's having the time of her life, and then she turns to her friends and she's like, "Do you guys ever think about death?"
And they're like, "What?" [laughs] And I feel like Death Barbie sometimes because I can be having, like, immense joy, and then I can, in an instant, switch over to having fear.
It's a nervous system reaction that I lose control of, and my mind, like, cannot unthink the way I'm feeling.
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