"I'm In": The Official Institute of Hospitality Podcast
Sep 10, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min · 13 segments
**This Podcast is Sponsored by Leonardo Hotels UK & Ireland** https://www.leonardohotels.co.uk/ **Host:** Phil Street FIH **Guests:** - **Stuart Derricott FIH**…
Mark GrantGuest
Stuart DerricottGuestPhil StreetHost
Avalon SmithGuest
But if we look at the, the application of technology, the basic assumption is, is it's labor saving.

So it replaces a human behavior because it's faster, more consistent, more reliable.

Uh [clears throat] now that's seems fair enough, but you've also gotta ask the question is do we need to do that action in the first place? And I think s- quite often when we apply technology to something, we, we, we are satisfied with quicker, more reliable, more consistent, as opposed to delving into the question, do we actually need to do this at all? And I think as technology's evolved, we're now into the question of it's, it less labor saving, it's more labor changing.

So how do we redeploy behaviors or refocus behaviors by the use of technology? So that, that, that's a nuance, but it's a really significant one that that role really, I, for me, I believe really has to understand and, and, and apply to, uh, to, to, for a successful outcome.

I think, I think when you looked at that headline, instantly everybody just thought, oh, it's the person who's responsible of looking after the systems.

And yes, that's still equally important to today, um, because if systems are broken, you do need to get it fixed.

You know, you're, you're stepping into all different arenas now as well, you know.

You're looking at things commercially as well as operationally, and you kinda need to have that overall understanding to make, you know, as, as Mark said, to make, make use of everything, you know.

Do we go out and buy another system? Is it a case of going out and just getting a new system? What does that impact have on every other department? It's not just a case of, oh, one department, something's not working, let's fix it.

So yeah, I think it's, it's grown from just, oh, the person who fixes, fixes the systems to a broad scale now.

I think I, I'd agree with that, but I think, you know, I mean, the, the word I like to use is, is, you know, 20 years ago, I think it was custodial.

But if we look at the, the application of technology, the basic assumption is, is it's labor saving.

So it replaces a human behavior because it's faster, more consistent, more reliable.

Uh [clears throat] now that's seems fair enough, but you've also gotta ask the question is do we need to do that action in the first place? And I think s- quite often when we apply technology to something, we, we, we are satisfied with quicker, more reliable, more consistent, as opposed to delving into the question, do we actually need to do this at all? And I think as technology's evolved, we're now into the question of it's, it less labor saving, it's more labor changing.

So how do we redeploy behaviors or refocus behaviors by the use of technology? So that, that, that's a nuance, but it's a really significant one that that role really, I, for me, I believe really has to understand and, and, and apply to, uh, to, to, for a successful outcome.

I think, I think when you looked at that headline, instantly everybody just thought, oh, it's the person who's responsible of looking after the systems.

And yes, that's still equally important to today, um, because if systems are broken, you do need to get it fixed.

You know, you're, you're stepping into all different arenas now as well, you know.

You're looking at things commercially as well as operationally, and you kinda need to have that overall understanding to make, you know, as, as Mark said, to make, make use of everything, you know.

Do we go out and buy another system? Is it a case of going out and just getting a new system? What does that impact have on every other department? It's not just a case of, oh, one department, something's not working, let's fix it.

So yeah, I think it's, it's grown from just, oh, the person who fixes, fixes the systems to a broad scale now.

I think I, I'd agree with that, but I think, you know, I mean, the, the word I like to use is, is, you know, 20 years ago, I think it was custodial.
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