I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin
Sep 21, 2026 · 1 hr 11 min · 16 segments
After 16 months on bail waiting to be sentenced, Natascha Consigli was given 15 months with no parole. She tells Gary what her first night locked up was really like and how prison changed her. From…
Natascha ConsigliGuestGary JubelinHost
Because something that I've realized as well, if we don't address our own biases around how we feel about the people that go to prison or have a record-
... we can't be inclusive around it, and we need to sit down and go, "Why do I feel that way? Where does that bias come from? Is it realistic? Is it based on my own experiences?" And we're not telling you that anything is right or wrong, but let's look into it, and then I would prefer for a hiring manager or an exec to go, "I don't wanna do this-
Let's, let's say you encourage them to at least ha- have a look at it and hear, hear us out.
... that will show up, and they will apply for the role and, and go through the process.
... that exclude, and not just people with a record, but people with a disability, people with a mental illness, all those things-
Because something that I've realized as well, if we don't address our own biases around how we feel about the people that go to prison or have a record-
... we can't be inclusive around it, and we need to sit down and go, "Why do I feel that way? Where does that bias come from? Is it realistic? Is it based on my own experiences?" And we're not telling you that anything is right or wrong, but let's look into it, and then I would prefer for a hiring manager or an exec to go, "I don't wanna do this-
Let's, let's say you encourage them to at least ha- have a look at it and hear, hear us out.
... that will show up, and they will apply for the role and, and go through the process.
... that exclude, and not just people with a record, but people with a disability, people with a mental illness, all those things-
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