Whole Leaders, Wild Trust (featuring Dr. Rob McKenna)

[upbeat music] What's up, everybody? Welcome to the "How To Lead" podcast, a conversation designed to help you develop yourself and those around you.

My name's Adam.

Not joined by Clay today.

Today we've got a guest, my new friend, Dr.

Rob McKenna.

Rob has just put out a book called Whole Leaders, Wild Trust: The Courageous Path to Personal, Relational, and Organizational Change.

Listen, Rob is a trust guru.

Uh, he loves writing about trust, and he loves writing about and talking about how to develop as a whole leader.

And, um, he's done something that's pretty remarkable, he and his organization.

Uh, they've come up with a way for measuring trust.

Uh, it's incredibly helpful, uh, to do that, especially when it comes to leader development.

And then they also see how when you just simply develop your leaders, how much that has a positive impact on overall, not just team trust, but organizational trust.

So you guys are gonna love getting to know him.

He's very passionate about this subject, like Clay and I are.

Uh, so I'm excited to introduce everybody to my new friend, Dr.

Rob McKenna.

Welcome to the "How To Lead" podcast.

Good to have you here today.