Sep 25, 2026 · 26 min · 8 segments
What if being “the positive one” isn’t who you are? What if it’s who you learned to be because being liked felt safer than being honest? Shannon Platt spent years building a life around being the…
Shannon PlattGuest
Michelle BurkeHost
I can totally relate to it when I was teaching and realizing I don't want to get out of bed, like drinking more than normal, crying on my way home, listening to mantras and meditations on my way to school to accenture myself.

I gave my mom like the complete heart attack and did end up that September taking a maternity leave position and realized in that moment that it was me.

It was me that teaching to the test was crushing my soul that the girl who at five years old, who when you asked her, Michelle, what do you want to be when you grew up and would say a teacher was now the teacher.

If you had told me when I left 10 years ago, or actually longer than 10 years ago at this point, that I'd be sitting here hosting a podcast, I would have laughed in your face.
Right.

We have these defining moments where we know we're meant to leave something, but we stay because we're like, no, I need to.

And I think there's these little moments, obviously, that you had, that I had, that we all have leading up to that defining moment that sometimes we suppress down.

And so we're not listening to it until finally it comes to that point in time where you just can't ignore it anymore.

And as women, too, we're often asking for permission to do something versus just doing doing it.

And so again, it's kind of like, it's almost like I felt, and maybe you felt that like, I couldn't just make that decision to leave, but it's like, I almost finally had the permission to do it, or it just felt, or, or I didn't care if I had the permission.

I can totally relate to it when I was teaching and realizing I don't want to get out of bed, like drinking more than normal, crying on my way home, listening to mantras and meditations on my way to school to accenture myself.

I gave my mom like the complete heart attack and did end up that September taking a maternity leave position and realized in that moment that it was me.

It was me that teaching to the test was crushing my soul that the girl who at five years old, who when you asked her, Michelle, what do you want to be when you grew up and would say a teacher was now the teacher.

If you had told me when I left 10 years ago, or actually longer than 10 years ago at this point, that I'd be sitting here hosting a podcast, I would have laughed in your face.
Right.

We have these defining moments where we know we're meant to leave something, but we stay because we're like, no, I need to.

And I think there's these little moments, obviously, that you had, that I had, that we all have leading up to that defining moment that sometimes we suppress down.

And so we're not listening to it until finally it comes to that point in time where you just can't ignore it anymore.

And as women, too, we're often asking for permission to do something versus just doing doing it.

And so again, it's kind of like, it's almost like I felt, and maybe you felt that like, I couldn't just make that decision to leave, but it's like, I almost finally had the permission to do it, or it just felt, or, or I didn't care if I had the permission.
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