Caleb FetterGuestMarilyn MoedingerHostSheri ScottHostAnd you had a lot of points that I haven't considered and gave me some opportunity to discuss.

Yeah, I mean, thanks, you guys, for allowing me to contribute to the conversation.

glad that I could maybe dispel a few myths and maybe right a few wrongs that our industry, unfortunately, got wrong in the last 30 years and kind of hope for a different future going forward.
That's what we're all trying to do around here, so I'm really glad you could help us do that.
And it's good to talk to somebody outside of a true client relationship where like everyone's trying to kind of not sell in a bad sense, but trying to achieve something.
there's just so much more weight to it at that point but to talk to him just in general about projects that he's done and and how to frame the conversation with clients and and i know we've talked about it on here before so many of my clients now are like no technology i'm sick of apps i don't want to do it but when you take it from a different perspective that he shared with us um Not that we have to make our clients do it or convince them to do it, but it's just another part of the conversation.
And by the way, when I did my own house a few years ago, three or four years ago now, I said all the same things.
Like, I don't want and I still don't want everything connected and everything to the Internet and all this kind of stuff.
And I think Caleb's point about that, that is can sometimes be a downfall of the industry where they're really focused on, you know, it's an industry run by enthusiasts.
And you had a lot of points that I haven't considered and gave me some opportunity to discuss.

Yeah, I mean, thanks, you guys, for allowing me to contribute to the conversation.

glad that I could maybe dispel a few myths and maybe right a few wrongs that our industry, unfortunately, got wrong in the last 30 years and kind of hope for a different future going forward.
That's what we're all trying to do around here, so I'm really glad you could help us do that.
And it's good to talk to somebody outside of a true client relationship where like everyone's trying to kind of not sell in a bad sense, but trying to achieve something.
there's just so much more weight to it at that point but to talk to him just in general about projects that he's done and and how to frame the conversation with clients and and i know we've talked about it on here before so many of my clients now are like no technology i'm sick of apps i don't want to do it but when you take it from a different perspective that he shared with us um Not that we have to make our clients do it or convince them to do it, but it's just another part of the conversation.
And by the way, when I did my own house a few years ago, three or four years ago now, I said all the same things.
Like, I don't want and I still don't want everything connected and everything to the Internet and all this kind of stuff.
And I think Caleb's point about that, that is can sometimes be a downfall of the industry where they're really focused on, you know, it's an industry run by enthusiasts.
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