Jul 17, 2026 · 24 min · 12 segments
Negotiating for yourself can feel a thousand times harder than negotiating for someone else — and there's real psychology (and real money) behind why. Have you ever wondered: \- Why you can advocate…
Katie NaughtonGuestSusan JonesHost
Sara GelsheimerHostAnd I think what's especially interesting is that first job, you know, and the statistics about women not negotiating, A, for their first job, but then even in kind of the subsequent years.
So it's like, even if you don't ask for that additional 5,000 or, you know, whatever it is at that first job, when you then layer on the raises and different things that come with it, all of a sudden that can be a much more meaningful amount.

So, Katie, in your course, you know, how do you well, first of all, why do you think so many women leave money on the table? I think this is, you know, not just in the car dealership, but like you said, just in life, in careers.

Why do you think we're not naturally good at negotiating or not naturally good at least negotiating for ourselves? And then what are you teaching women to do about it?

And so we, you know, we want to be, we prioritize harmonization over anything else.

Um, and so that's where, you know, whether we, we mean to do it, you know, consciously or subconsciously, that's just how it is.

We tend to underprice, um, or, you know, justify, uh, we, we won't really ask what we want or feel like we should, you know, what we're worth or what we think we're worth.

Um, you know, that was a huge problem and myself, um, and, We're just too worried about being liked or we're unsure of our value.

And then I think another thing is women tend to get scared of losing the opportunity in general.

So if you're negotiating or selling something or on the other side of things, you're just worried that you're going to lose the whole deal altogether and you don't want to do that.
And I think what's especially interesting is that first job, you know, and the statistics about women not negotiating, A, for their first job, but then even in kind of the subsequent years.
So it's like, even if you don't ask for that additional 5,000 or, you know, whatever it is at that first job, when you then layer on the raises and different things that come with it, all of a sudden that can be a much more meaningful amount.

So, Katie, in your course, you know, how do you well, first of all, why do you think so many women leave money on the table? I think this is, you know, not just in the car dealership, but like you said, just in life, in careers.

Why do you think we're not naturally good at negotiating or not naturally good at least negotiating for ourselves? And then what are you teaching women to do about it?

And so we, you know, we want to be, we prioritize harmonization over anything else.

Um, and so that's where, you know, whether we, we mean to do it, you know, consciously or subconsciously, that's just how it is.

We tend to underprice, um, or, you know, justify, uh, we, we won't really ask what we want or feel like we should, you know, what we're worth or what we think we're worth.

Um, you know, that was a huge problem and myself, um, and, We're just too worried about being liked or we're unsure of our value.

And then I think another thing is women tend to get scared of losing the opportunity in general.

So if you're negotiating or selling something or on the other side of things, you're just worried that you're going to lose the whole deal altogether and you don't want to do that.
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