Jun 29, 2026 · 1 hr 26 min · 12 segments
Cole Naylor, Ryan DeWitt, and Wade Lytal each lived every parents worst nightmare this past year. Their daughters — Wynne, Molly, and Kellyanne — were among the twenty-seven girls and counselors who…
Ryan DeWittGuest
Cole NaylorGuest
Wade LytleGuest
Abigail RobertsonHostSo I'm just curious in the past year or so, since you've lost your daughters, how has this changed your perspective of heaven?

I had a very difficult time actually contemplating what heaven was and getting a sense for eternity for a long time.

One of the things that our pastor said to Allie and I, our first meeting with him, was, you know, I think, you know, this is me paraphrasing for him, but he said, I've come to the conclusion that, you know, I used to think when we die, we're going to have all these questions.

He said, now I've come to a different conclusion, and I think it's when we die, we're going to go, oh, I see.

But I think what is really changed, you know, my perspective on heaven and given me the most hope of knowing where when and Kelly and Molly and the rest of the girls are is it's kind of been inspired by John Burke and through, you know, his research on Indies, his book, Imagine Heaven.


But aligning my time here, excuse me, aligning my time here, you know, storing up treasure in heaven, not on earth, that has become a priority of mine.
So I'm just curious in the past year or so, since you've lost your daughters, how has this changed your perspective of heaven?

I had a very difficult time actually contemplating what heaven was and getting a sense for eternity for a long time.

One of the things that our pastor said to Allie and I, our first meeting with him, was, you know, I think, you know, this is me paraphrasing for him, but he said, I've come to the conclusion that, you know, I used to think when we die, we're going to have all these questions.

He said, now I've come to a different conclusion, and I think it's when we die, we're going to go, oh, I see.

But I think what is really changed, you know, my perspective on heaven and given me the most hope of knowing where when and Kelly and Molly and the rest of the girls are is it's kind of been inspired by John Burke and through, you know, his research on Indies, his book, Imagine Heaven.


But aligning my time here, excuse me, aligning my time here, you know, storing up treasure in heaven, not on earth, that has become a priority of mine.
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