Sep 17, 2026 · 1 hr 28 min · 15 segments
In Episode 8 of Heads Up With Phil Galfond, Phil coaches Chris Vitch, a three-time WSOP bracelet winner, 20-year poker pro, longtime mixed-game coach, and BTG member, through a problem Chris believes…
Chris VitchGuest
Phil GalfondHost
Yeah, in school, those projects, is it that people didn't carry their weight? What would be the fear or the frustration commonly?

I mean, you know, I think you start out in like high school, for example, let's just say, you know, you're sort of forced into group projects, right? And a lot of people don't really want to be there.

And I feel like my experience was that I was a try hard, you know, I was a nerdy kid who liked to get good scores and, um, other people didn't seem to care in the same way.

And you know, it's, it's a big risk, right? It's a, it's very likely that, that they're, that I'm just going to end up having to do more of the work anyway.

Um, and then in college I went to school for engineering and, um, We had to do group projects all the time, which is good, I think, because engineers have to learn how to work in teams.

But you're still working with people with different interests and different schedules and different skill sets.

And it can be challenging, right? And so I think that was more a fair test of just me not having the patience maybe for like people not wanting to do things my way or not seeing things the same way that I see them.
Is it that...
Yeah.
Yeah.
If somebody, I guess I'm trying to

get how much of it is like disagreement, like in a group project or elsewhere, how do you handle disagreement when somebody sees something differently than you and you kind of can't get them to see it your way?

Yeah, in school, those projects, is it that people didn't carry their weight? What would be the fear or the frustration commonly?

I mean, you know, I think you start out in like high school, for example, let's just say, you know, you're sort of forced into group projects, right? And a lot of people don't really want to be there.

And I feel like my experience was that I was a try hard, you know, I was a nerdy kid who liked to get good scores and, um, other people didn't seem to care in the same way.

And you know, it's, it's a big risk, right? It's a, it's very likely that, that they're, that I'm just going to end up having to do more of the work anyway.

Um, and then in college I went to school for engineering and, um, We had to do group projects all the time, which is good, I think, because engineers have to learn how to work in teams.

But you're still working with people with different interests and different schedules and different skill sets.

And it can be challenging, right? And so I think that was more a fair test of just me not having the patience maybe for like people not wanting to do things my way or not seeing things the same way that I see them.
Is it that...
Yeah.
Yeah.
If somebody, I guess I'm trying to

get how much of it is like disagreement, like in a group project or elsewhere, how do you handle disagreement when somebody sees something differently than you and you kind of can't get them to see it your way?
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