Halacha4Life Shiur 1045 Voice

So there's an Isser that the Gemara in Kedushin brings called Kol Be'isha Ervah.

But it's interesting that the Gemara that talks about Kol is not talking about singing necessarily.

The Gemara is actually talking about talking.

So there's a big discussion in the Peskim if the concept of Kol Be'isha Ervah applies to a woman who is talking.

And the Peskim basically say, even if you want to be Machmir, it sounds like from the Gemara that even just talking could be a problem.

But seemingly it's only if it's in a, in a sing-song or some sort of speak, like for example, a speech.

Is there an Isser to listen to a woman speak? This could be relevant if a person's by a business conference.

So there are those that Asser because Kol Be'isha Ervah, and when a person speaks, they try to make their voice as enticing as possible to try to bring out the point that they're making.

So there are those that are Asser, but L'maisa there are many that are Mekel.

And there's definitely a Makim L'hatir, but a person has to make sure the Isser of Histaklus doesn't apply if a person is listening to a woman speak.

Sometimes a person is stuck in a situation, and that's the, the Matzav that he's in.

So api Halacha, there's a Makim L'chakal als the Kol, but als Histaklus.

If there's a situation of Histaklus there, there is no Makim L'chakal, and that it would be an Isser De'oraisah if a person is Oever on it.

But the Dibur itself, many Peskim are Mekel regarding a Kol of an Ervah, like a sister or someone that you don't, that a person doesn't naturally have a desire for.

So that is Mutar to hear singing.

But the discussion would be regarding saying Brachos or Kriyah Shma or Birchas Hamazin.

So L'maisa, many Peskim are Mekel.

It's a big discussion in the Peskim.

It's relevant that people sing Birchas Hamazin together, the whole family.

Is that a problem? Because there are women singing together, and it's a Kol Asumah, obviously a Kol that's Mutar to listen to, but the question is Bishas a Kriyah Shma or Psukim or Bracha, may perhaps that would be Asser.

So there is a, a strong Makim L'chakal, which is why many people are Mekel in it.

It's just important to be aware of it, that just like there's an Isser to say a Bracha in front of an Ervah, even if it's not an Ervah that you necessarily have a Isser to look at, but there's an Isser to say a Davar Shebikedusha in front of an Ervah, in front of an uncovered part, even if it's a woman that there's no Isser to look at.

The same thing would apply regarding when it comes to a Kol.

It's possible that there would be a problem.

L'maisa, there's many Mekelim, and therefore there is a Makim L'chakal for a person to say Brachos or Kriyah Shma if the Zemar that he's hearing is someone who is Rogel Bah, for example, a spouse, a wife, that would, according to many Peskim, would not be...