Sep 1, 2026 · 52 min · 10 segments
Have you ever been successful at work but felt like something was missing? You may have been doing work you were capable of—but not the work you were *built* to do. That disconnect affects not only…
Greg HarrodGuest
Meredith BellHost
And so the focus of your work, or at least one key area of it is, helping people to really discover where their unique talents are and therefore where their contributions.
Talk about what difference you've seen it make when someone is able to align their natural strengths with the work they're doing versus someone who is misaligned and isn't able to really participate fully in expressing what they're really good at.
So as I said, I've done a lot of project management and then program management and I am, I am able and competent and have done pretty well and managing all the details.
So I'm, I can do those things, but if I do that for too long, I'll start failing.
So now I know that what I'm really built to do is more of a supporting people and then helping them think through what they're trying to achieve.
But the things that for me, for example, when I was doing those detailed project management work, I did it.
I did it well, I think, based on feedback that I received, but it really, it was draining me over time.
And then, as you know, we've talked about the, one of the tools I use is called the six types of working genius.
I'm sure many of your listeners have read the advantage and the ideal team player, but his latest book is the six types of working genius.
And he talks about his own example of, where he thought because he was the CEO of his company, the table group, he needed to be the cheerleader and he did it.
He led the company, but he tells a story in the book of Amy on his staff said, what's, what's going on? What's wrong with you? Because of the way it was seeping out, he wasn't satisfied and he was the CEO.
And they had a conversation that Cody on his team, he, he, Pat explained that he's like, I don't like doing this galvanizing type work.
So that was the moment at which Pat said, well, then you're the chief galvanizing officer.
They aligned the people and the work, what they're wired to do with the kind of work.
And so the focus of your work, or at least one key area of it is, helping people to really discover where their unique talents are and therefore where their contributions.
Talk about what difference you've seen it make when someone is able to align their natural strengths with the work they're doing versus someone who is misaligned and isn't able to really participate fully in expressing what they're really good at.
So as I said, I've done a lot of project management and then program management and I am, I am able and competent and have done pretty well and managing all the details.
So I'm, I can do those things, but if I do that for too long, I'll start failing.
So now I know that what I'm really built to do is more of a supporting people and then helping them think through what they're trying to achieve.
But the things that for me, for example, when I was doing those detailed project management work, I did it.
I did it well, I think, based on feedback that I received, but it really, it was draining me over time.
And then, as you know, we've talked about the, one of the tools I use is called the six types of working genius.
I'm sure many of your listeners have read the advantage and the ideal team player, but his latest book is the six types of working genius.
And he talks about his own example of, where he thought because he was the CEO of his company, the table group, he needed to be the cheerleader and he did it.
He led the company, but he tells a story in the book of Amy on his staff said, what's, what's going on? What's wrong with you? Because of the way it was seeping out, he wasn't satisfied and he was the CEO.
And they had a conversation that Cody on his team, he, he, Pat explained that he's like, I don't like doing this galvanizing type work.
So that was the moment at which Pat said, well, then you're the chief galvanizing officer.
They aligned the people and the work, what they're wired to do with the kind of work.
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