In this episode of the Get Obsessed podcast, Julie Lokun and co-host Mika talk with Emily Bouchard, a family dynamics coach who has spent over two decades inside the private conversations of ultra wealthy families, about the money secrets that quietly wreck families and the trust that keeps them from unraveling.
Emily opens with one of the more explosive cases from her career, an adult child who embezzled millions from trusting parents to fund an online subscription based addiction, and uses it to unpack how communication breakdowns, not the money itself, let the situation spiral for so long. She and the hosts talk about why wealth tends to amplify whatever is already present in a family rather than create new problems on its own, the difference between being brought in proactively (sometimes with children as young as five) versus after a crisis has already hit, and how sudden wealth events compare to generational wealth when it comes to raising children with values and work ethic.
The conversation turns to death, inheritance, and estate planning, where Emily explains that a lack of relational trust, more than the money itself, is usually what causes families to fracture after a parent passes away, a theme she explores further in her upcoming book The Little Book of Trust and Money, co-authored with Charles Feltman. She also shares candid examples of financial infidelity between romantic partners, from hidden accounts that quietly fund children from a prior marriage to spouses discovering they are legally responsible for a partner's premarital debt or child support, and offers practical advice on prenups, separate versus joint accounts, and paying attention to how a partner responds to hard conversations before marriage.
In this episode, we discuss:
- A recent case of an adult child embezzling millions from parents to fund an online subscription based addiction
- How wealth amplifies existing family dynamics rather than creating new ones
- Being brought in proactively, sometimes with children as young as five, versus after a crisis hits
- Sudden wealth events versus generational wealth and the different challenges each creates for kids
- Why estate planning conversations get missed and how unprepared inheritance can hit like a meteor
- The real root cause behind inheritance conflict: a lack of relational trust, not the money itself
- Financial infidelity in relationships, from hidden accounts to undisclosed debt and child support
- What to watch for in how a partner responds to hard conversations before marriage
ABOUT THE GUEST: Emily Bouchard is a family dynamics coach, former marital and family therapist, and fractional chief learning officer to family offices, with more than two decades of experience working directly with ultra wealthy families.
Her work focuses on family communication, trust, and inheritance, including helping blended families navigate prenups and sudden wealth events. She has given a TEDx talk on how to talk about inheritance without talking about money, addressing the fear many families have around discussing wealth openly.
Emily is the co-author, with Charles Feltman (author of The Thin Book of Trust), of the upcoming The Little Book of Trust and Money: An Essential Primer for Families, which draws on the trust building principles she has used with families for the past 20 years. She has also written The Beginner's Guide to Purposeful Prenups, a resource to help couples work through their values before marriage. The Little Book of Trust and Money is currently available for presale.
MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:
- (TEDx Talk) How to Talk About Inheritance Without Talking About Money - https://youtu.be/tgtReUS15l8
- (Book) The Little Book of Trust and Money: An Essential Primer for Families by Emily Bouchard and Charles Feltman, in presale - https://trustmoneyfamilies.com/
- (Book) The Thin Book of Trust by Charles Feltman - https://www.bkconnection.com/books/title/the-thin-book-of-trust-third-edition
- (Book) The Beginner's Guide to Purposeful Prenups by Emily Bouchard - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1947341154
CONNECT WITH EMILY BOUCHARD:
- Website: https://emilybouchard.com/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/emily.bouchard.391/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emily4families/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-bouchard-5a9a049
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@emilybouchard1111
- Substack: https://substack.com/@emily4families
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