May 5, 2026 · 1 hr 13 min · 37 segments
In this candid conversation, Bryan, Kellen, Thad and Pastor Mark Simpson of South Community Church in Bixby, OK explore the true role of pastors, the importance of authenticity, and how faith…
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when we, but when we start to speak of our pastors and the people that have accepted-
... that position, there's just a little bit more there for it, which, h- with higher respect comes, like, a higher amount of reverence, you know, for that position.
And so I've taken a lot of issue with this particular pastor because I think if you wanna stand on the stage and talk about what God is all about and spread his word, you can't also want everyone to accept you and like you.
That's not gonna, that's not gonna work out, because you're gonna have to say things people don't like.
I mean, even as simple as being a teacher, not everyone's gonna like the teacher because she's sometimes gotta f-
Not everyone's gonna like the police officer because sometimes he has to, or she has to enforce the rules.
So when you have to do that, sometimes you're going to offend people and make them mad.
You can do that in love, but if you need to do that job and take in all of the attention and all the attaboys for the job that you're doing, and all the reverence and respect that a pastor would get, and then layer on all the modern-day pastor stuff to where you have fans-
when we, but when we start to speak of our pastors and the people that have accepted-
... that position, there's just a little bit more there for it, which, h- with higher respect comes, like, a higher amount of reverence, you know, for that position.
And so I've taken a lot of issue with this particular pastor because I think if you wanna stand on the stage and talk about what God is all about and spread his word, you can't also want everyone to accept you and like you.
That's not gonna, that's not gonna work out, because you're gonna have to say things people don't like.
I mean, even as simple as being a teacher, not everyone's gonna like the teacher because she's sometimes gotta f-
Not everyone's gonna like the police officer because sometimes he has to, or she has to enforce the rules.
So when you have to do that, sometimes you're going to offend people and make them mad.
You can do that in love, but if you need to do that job and take in all of the attention and all the attaboys for the job that you're doing, and all the reverence and respect that a pastor would get, and then layer on all the modern-day pastor stuff to where you have fans-
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