Gary Ryan Moving Beyond Being Good®
Jun 9, 2026 · 33 min · 10 segments
Navigating the complexities of family relationships and offering life advice to at-risk youth is crucial. This discussion with Lyndon Jones, Founder of Next Gen Edge https://nextgenedge.com.au…
Lyndon JonesGuest
Gary RyanHost
Yeah, and it's surprising how, as you just mentioned, people might often be in a reasonably well socioeconomic background and but their youth, their teenagers, their young adults may in fact be slipping through the gaps a bit with what the system has available for them, for understandable reasons, because we've got to fund the ones obviously that don't necessarily have the money.
But how would you specifically say you're helping to address that gap? So for example, let's say if I had a child that was exhibiting some behaviours, and it might actually be worth even sharing what some of those behaviours might look like, Lyndon, if they would be exhibiting some of those behaviours.
The school's trying, but I can see where this is going and I don't like where it's going.
They've certainly improved since obviously they've started working with me, not to pump up my tyres, but they've put a lot of hard work in themselves as well.
But what was happening is this young person, like any young person, any teenager, they start to obviously drift away from parents and seek validation from peers.
But unfortunately, they had sort of met some peers that were maybe a part of a subculture that was not I guess, leading them in the right direction, you know, was doing the wrong things.
And so, you know, you hear about that, you know, getting in with the wrong crowd sort of thing.
But because I guess there's a lot of risk taking involved with that, it's, you know, you know, to kind of talk neuroscientifically, there's potentially some dopamine stuff happening there.
And And so that's the draw, right, is that they're doing things, they're taking risks, and so it's exciting.
And so a lot of the work that we had to do was – try to find other ways to, I guess, fill that need that they were getting, which was, you know, that need for exploration and that need for maybe a little bit of risk and excitement, but do it in really healthy ways to get them away from those people.
You know, obviously I'd love to be able to help those other kids as well, but they're not the ones reaching out to me, right? So...
And so a lot of the work came from, I was actually doing more of the work with the parents, the mums and the dads, because, you know, coaching, you know, people might have seen the interview I did with Coach Damien Brown recently, you know, and him and I talked in that about, the impact that we can have as coaches, whether it be in martial arts or in a business like mine, is very limited without parent buy-in, you know, because, you know, we might only have the young person for a couple of hours, you know.
You know, we might be doing some mentorship and community engagement-based stuff for a few hours, but once they go home, if there's no...
If there's no structure in place and there's no respect in the home, and even when mums and dads are trying desperately, if that's not happening at home, then the impact that we can have is limited.
So that's why I also do a lot of work with parents as well, is to almost be a sounding board for them.
And I lean on my experience in, you know, working with young people who've been in the youth justice system, my experience in case managing youth and in residential care, and just...
Yeah, and it's surprising how, as you just mentioned, people might often be in a reasonably well socioeconomic background and but their youth, their teenagers, their young adults may in fact be slipping through the gaps a bit with what the system has available for them, for understandable reasons, because we've got to fund the ones obviously that don't necessarily have the money.
But how would you specifically say you're helping to address that gap? So for example, let's say if I had a child that was exhibiting some behaviours, and it might actually be worth even sharing what some of those behaviours might look like, Lyndon, if they would be exhibiting some of those behaviours.
The school's trying, but I can see where this is going and I don't like where it's going.
They've certainly improved since obviously they've started working with me, not to pump up my tyres, but they've put a lot of hard work in themselves as well.
But what was happening is this young person, like any young person, any teenager, they start to obviously drift away from parents and seek validation from peers.
But unfortunately, they had sort of met some peers that were maybe a part of a subculture that was not I guess, leading them in the right direction, you know, was doing the wrong things.
And so, you know, you hear about that, you know, getting in with the wrong crowd sort of thing.
But because I guess there's a lot of risk taking involved with that, it's, you know, you know, to kind of talk neuroscientifically, there's potentially some dopamine stuff happening there.
And And so that's the draw, right, is that they're doing things, they're taking risks, and so it's exciting.
And so a lot of the work that we had to do was – try to find other ways to, I guess, fill that need that they were getting, which was, you know, that need for exploration and that need for maybe a little bit of risk and excitement, but do it in really healthy ways to get them away from those people.
You know, obviously I'd love to be able to help those other kids as well, but they're not the ones reaching out to me, right? So...
And so a lot of the work came from, I was actually doing more of the work with the parents, the mums and the dads, because, you know, coaching, you know, people might have seen the interview I did with Coach Damien Brown recently, you know, and him and I talked in that about, the impact that we can have as coaches, whether it be in martial arts or in a business like mine, is very limited without parent buy-in, you know, because, you know, we might only have the young person for a couple of hours, you know.
You know, we might be doing some mentorship and community engagement-based stuff for a few hours, but once they go home, if there's no...
If there's no structure in place and there's no respect in the home, and even when mums and dads are trying desperately, if that's not happening at home, then the impact that we can have is limited.
So that's why I also do a lot of work with parents as well, is to almost be a sounding board for them.
And I lean on my experience in, you know, working with young people who've been in the youth justice system, my experience in case managing youth and in residential care, and just...
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