Sep 1, 2026 · 35 min · 9 segments
Consider this your fair warning: today's topic touches a nerve. As an interior design business owner, you are the very first person creating the culture of your company, and how you show up in the…
Shayna RoseHost
Evelyn McDougallHost
This is a pretty massive... point for me i'm triggered i'm triggered now where are we on the feelings wheel shana let me pull my freaking feelings out no there's a lot to unpack here because the reality is is the position that we're in we have this very strong dual perspective

means Yeah, me, Shana and myself as 4D Biz who work with interior designers literally across the country every single day.

owner, I understand the reactivity and I understand the expectations that come with you wanting your team to perform at your standards.

And I understand we want to quickly place blame or point the finger that it's the human or whatever we're saying that is going on.

I would bet to believe we care more than probably any company out there and take accountability more than any company out there.

I will 100% put money on that, that you'll never find another team like us to do so.

In the beginning, and even now, I still struggle with wanting to jump quickly to the business owner's side perspective.

I want to quickly just be on their side and I want to quickly be thinking of solutions to give back time, to give back money, to solve a problem.

I have had to learn to kind of slow down and I still struggle with this in stopping to investigate, to hear the employee side of things.

And Evelyn, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like nine out of 10 times where I have quickly taken the business owner side, you have come back with, oh, hell no, absolutely not.

And it's really challenging kind of situation to be in because when an assistant is correct, they did the right things.

This is a pretty massive... point for me i'm triggered i'm triggered now where are we on the feelings wheel shana let me pull my freaking feelings out no there's a lot to unpack here because the reality is is the position that we're in we have this very strong dual perspective

means Yeah, me, Shana and myself as 4D Biz who work with interior designers literally across the country every single day.

owner, I understand the reactivity and I understand the expectations that come with you wanting your team to perform at your standards.

And I understand we want to quickly place blame or point the finger that it's the human or whatever we're saying that is going on.

I would bet to believe we care more than probably any company out there and take accountability more than any company out there.

I will 100% put money on that, that you'll never find another team like us to do so.

In the beginning, and even now, I still struggle with wanting to jump quickly to the business owner's side perspective.

I want to quickly just be on their side and I want to quickly be thinking of solutions to give back time, to give back money, to solve a problem.

I have had to learn to kind of slow down and I still struggle with this in stopping to investigate, to hear the employee side of things.

And Evelyn, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like nine out of 10 times where I have quickly taken the business owner side, you have come back with, oh, hell no, absolutely not.

And it's really challenging kind of situation to be in because when an assistant is correct, they did the right things.
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