Fit to Transform Podcast with Coach Nikias
Jul 31, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min · 11 segments
Today’s guest is Kevin Oo, a professional bodybuilder, coach, and hypertrophy researcher, joining me to break down a soon-to-be-published study on lengthened partials and their effect on chest…
Kevin OoGuest
Nikias TomasielloHostAnd, uh, I am very intrigued to talk to you since you've been in the game for so long as a coach, a bodybuilder, and now a researcher as well.
Um, I'm curious, is this the first study that you're going to have get published under your name?

I think the full study, because I'm not living in a lab, um, all the time, um, it's actually quite tiring to have to kind of bounce back and forth because the lab is, like, 20 minutes away from where my gym stays, um, because that's where the university is at, and that's where most of the research is being done.

Um, so I'm not really in the lab as often with my research partner, so I'm primarily helping out in terms of screening the participants, kind of going through some of, um, the methodologies that's involved, um, and just basically do-- writing up the discussion, analyzing the results, going back and forth on what the results basically mean, what more that we need to do, answering the reviewers, things of that kind.

But yeah, so the pilot study was done when I was still in the university quite a bit, but nowadays, I'm not really into-- I'm not really in the, the lab as much anymore.

I can go back and visit every once in a while, but the gym here is basically where all my attention's at.
I was just curious in the sense of, is this still one of your, um, first papers or is it already further down the line? Sounds like it's still-

Um, I think that it being the first paper is also partly because I'm not Um, very experienced in these kind of things, like the high level stuff, like the statistical analysis that's, um, that guys like Dr. Roberts, um, the entire, um, um, um, data driven strength crew that's running, those are really high level stuff.

I, I would consider myself fairly novice in, in that department, where whenever you're digging into it, it can be quite heavy stuff that they are doing, which is pretty impressive in my books.

Um, and yes, this is our first paper, and I think that I often tell a lot of the guys that I speak to that I am more of a full-time coach, part-time researcher because I like that side of the process and I'm usually doing it in a way where I'm trying to find practical takeaways because there are things that are very cool in terms of how it applies to us from a theoretical perspective, but there's not a lot of practical takeaways or something that's like, oh shit, this is something that I can use.

So I'm really looking at all my papers that ever-- if I'm ever involved in as what does this apply to us-- how does this apply to us in terms of practice?
Yeah, that makes perfect sense, and I say it every time this comes up on the podcast, but that is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to you because I like to talk to researchers but also to practitioners to tease out what practical takeaways we can actually apply, um, as trainees, but also with our clients.
So before we delve into the conversation on the study itself, I just want to remind the listeners and viewers, and also maybe say that this to them for the first time, because I might have some new listeners and viewers today.
We've discussed lengthened partials on the podcast before on several episodes.
And, uh, I am very intrigued to talk to you since you've been in the game for so long as a coach, a bodybuilder, and now a researcher as well.
Um, I'm curious, is this the first study that you're going to have get published under your name?

I think the full study, because I'm not living in a lab, um, all the time, um, it's actually quite tiring to have to kind of bounce back and forth because the lab is, like, 20 minutes away from where my gym stays, um, because that's where the university is at, and that's where most of the research is being done.

Um, so I'm not really in the lab as often with my research partner, so I'm primarily helping out in terms of screening the participants, kind of going through some of, um, the methodologies that's involved, um, and just basically do-- writing up the discussion, analyzing the results, going back and forth on what the results basically mean, what more that we need to do, answering the reviewers, things of that kind.

But yeah, so the pilot study was done when I was still in the university quite a bit, but nowadays, I'm not really into-- I'm not really in the, the lab as much anymore.

I can go back and visit every once in a while, but the gym here is basically where all my attention's at.
I was just curious in the sense of, is this still one of your, um, first papers or is it already further down the line? Sounds like it's still-

Um, I think that it being the first paper is also partly because I'm not Um, very experienced in these kind of things, like the high level stuff, like the statistical analysis that's, um, that guys like Dr. Roberts, um, the entire, um, um, um, data driven strength crew that's running, those are really high level stuff.

I, I would consider myself fairly novice in, in that department, where whenever you're digging into it, it can be quite heavy stuff that they are doing, which is pretty impressive in my books.

Um, and yes, this is our first paper, and I think that I often tell a lot of the guys that I speak to that I am more of a full-time coach, part-time researcher because I like that side of the process and I'm usually doing it in a way where I'm trying to find practical takeaways because there are things that are very cool in terms of how it applies to us from a theoretical perspective, but there's not a lot of practical takeaways or something that's like, oh shit, this is something that I can use.

So I'm really looking at all my papers that ever-- if I'm ever involved in as what does this apply to us-- how does this apply to us in terms of practice?
Yeah, that makes perfect sense, and I say it every time this comes up on the podcast, but that is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to you because I like to talk to researchers but also to practitioners to tease out what practical takeaways we can actually apply, um, as trainees, but also with our clients.
So before we delve into the conversation on the study itself, I just want to remind the listeners and viewers, and also maybe say that this to them for the first time, because I might have some new listeners and viewers today.
We've discussed lengthened partials on the podcast before on several episodes.
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