Fit 2 Love Podcast with JJ Flizanes for Wellness, Confidence & Relationships
Oct 6, 2026 · 54 min · 19 segments
What if you’ve done years of personal growth, therapy, healing, and self-development—and you’re **still getting triggered by the same things?** In this week’s episode, I’m doing something a little…
JJ FlizanesHost
Vesta HurlbuttGuest
Well, as you know, so this whole thing started because I had clients years ago, 2021, 2019, 2019, 2020, 2021.

And then after another person said it and another person said it, I thought, oh, my gosh, well, I don't know.

I taught the tools as if they were already trainers, already had gone through the information, already had been – I guess school and all the other things.

And even though, just like me, if I was to hand everyone in the world the core wound exercise out of the Imago therapy workbook, and you did it, there's a very small but significant percentage of the population that would be able to see the patterns.

And that would be enough, at least enough to start changing or healing or seeing things differently.

The impact was different, right? Because we all have different ways we interpret information, how we use it, whether you see patterns or not.

And so the certification was great because I did have some people that could extract, oh my gosh, this is so important and I see the pattern and now I know what to do about it.

And not anyone in that group in particular, but just anyone I've worked with, they need more.

So then your year of 2021, you guys came in much differently with the idea that I want to just do the work.

Well, as you know, so this whole thing started because I had clients years ago, 2021, 2019, 2019, 2020, 2021.

And then after another person said it and another person said it, I thought, oh, my gosh, well, I don't know.

I taught the tools as if they were already trainers, already had gone through the information, already had been – I guess school and all the other things.

And even though, just like me, if I was to hand everyone in the world the core wound exercise out of the Imago therapy workbook, and you did it, there's a very small but significant percentage of the population that would be able to see the patterns.

And that would be enough, at least enough to start changing or healing or seeing things differently.

The impact was different, right? Because we all have different ways we interpret information, how we use it, whether you see patterns or not.

And so the certification was great because I did have some people that could extract, oh my gosh, this is so important and I see the pattern and now I know what to do about it.

And not anyone in that group in particular, but just anyone I've worked with, they need more.

So then your year of 2021, you guys came in much differently with the idea that I want to just do the work.
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