Fishing Without Bait: A Full Impact Mindfulness Podcast
Jun 23, 2026 · 27 min · 10 segments
**Part 3** of our conversation with returning guests **Eamon and Merlin** continues an honest and thoughtful discussion about curiosity, personal growth, and the courage to question long-held beliefs…
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Jim EllermeyerHostEamonGuestMm-hmm.
Right.
I think just kind of living a, living a life in terms of asking yourself constantly, like, "What if I'm wrong?" Like I, I can only speak generally for myself.
There have been moments in my life where I felt like I knew everything, and honestly, there's nothing worse than when you are in that state, and then something happens that challenges that, and it feels like you are questioning everything in the world, right?
Yeah.
And it, and it makes you...
Y- I think that there's such a drop that happens when it comes to that.
I think if you live a life where you are constantly curious and constantly like, "Well, what if I'm wrong? What if, you know, what I th- what I think in this moment is not the full scale of my knowledge of what I will have, you know, a day from now or an hour from now?" Like, I think it's a...
I- I- I would just encourage people, like, it's a more interesting life.
It's a more self-fulfilling life.
It challenges you, and I think, I don't know, I've, I've learned a lot through, like, also h- handling my own anxiety in certain moments where it's like not knowing everything is honestly fine.
Like it's, it's, there's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with developing knowledge.
And so I think that's where...
And, and again, that's the, the difference between beliefs and facts.
It's very hard when you have a, a stringent belief to delineate, but when you let facts play out, when you just live life and, you know, what happens happens in cer- in certain respects, like, you know.
And to not be scared of that, I think, is when we grow then more.
It's like a fact-based, you know, belief system.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
I think just kind of living a, living a life in terms of asking yourself constantly, like, "What if I'm wrong?" Like I, I can only speak generally for myself.
There have been moments in my life where I felt like I knew everything, and honestly, there's nothing worse than when you are in that state, and then something happens that challenges that, and it feels like you are questioning everything in the world, right?
Yeah.
And it, and it makes you...
Y- I think that there's such a drop that happens when it comes to that.
I think if you live a life where you are constantly curious and constantly like, "Well, what if I'm wrong? What if, you know, what I th- what I think in this moment is not the full scale of my knowledge of what I will have, you know, a day from now or an hour from now?" Like, I think it's a...
I- I- I would just encourage people, like, it's a more interesting life.
It's a more self-fulfilling life.
It challenges you, and I think, I don't know, I've, I've learned a lot through, like, also h- handling my own anxiety in certain moments where it's like not knowing everything is honestly fine.
Like it's, it's, there's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with developing knowledge.
And so I think that's where...
And, and again, that's the, the difference between beliefs and facts.
It's very hard when you have a, a stringent belief to delineate, but when you let facts play out, when you just live life and, you know, what happens happens in cer- in certain respects, like, you know.
And to not be scared of that, I think, is when we grow then more.
It's like a fact-based, you know, belief system.
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