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So being a buying agent in the industry, how has that shaped your view of the recreational community?

I get an up close and personal view of what the economic impacts are of sport fishing now, and I, I think e- everybody understands how much they spend on fishing, and it's a lot, but when you start seeing it in the big picture, it's massive.

I believe the econo- total economic benefit of sport fishing in Washington State's like $3 billion, which puts that up there with some pretty serious players and some pretty, pretty major industries that ...

And I don't think sport fishing necessarily gets a fair shake for the amount of economic benefit that it's driving to Washington State.

It's like 17,000 jobs that it supports, and 275 million in state and local tax revenue, and that, that's pr- probably one of my biggest frustrations with the whole fisheries advocacy thing is other sectors-I'm not picking on anybody, say, the commercial sector.

Well, that fishery's worth X amount, and I, I rarely hear that argument made for the rec side of things.

And I would love to see the department when they're looking at cutting a fishery or adding a fishery where they say, "Hey, we're gonna add these.

We believe that'll equal X amount of angler trips, which will be this, the X amount of economic benefit." And it's probably a metric and a calculation we should be looking at all of our fisheries when we're proposing new fisheries or closing of existing fisheries if they said, "Well, we had to cut this season short.

That's X amount of lost economic benefit associated with that." And, and we've made some asks for that in the past.

With, like, let's say a commercial fishery, what's your ex-vessel landing value is of how much that, what they, what the processor wrote the fish ticket for, or the fish buyer wrote the fish ticket for, and then how much economic activity was around the processing and all that, and there, it, there's a lot more gray area, I think, with sportfishing.

But we could get there and figure it out and get pretty dang close if we really wanted to.

I think that makes a lot of sense, and just curious of your opinion, why do you think that doesn't already exist?

I think, and I'll probably this blame goes on all of us in the sport fish- fishing industry, but we haven't advocated hard enough for it.

It's, I think the general public looks at it like, "Oh, well, people go recreational fishing just for fun."

"That, that's a hobby." It not, oh, it actually supports the livelihoods of a lot of people, 16,700 or whatever in Washington State.

So being a buying agent in the industry, how has that shaped your view of the recreational community?

I get an up close and personal view of what the economic impacts are of sport fishing now, and I, I think e- everybody understands how much they spend on fishing, and it's a lot, but when you start seeing it in the big picture, it's massive.

I believe the econo- total economic benefit of sport fishing in Washington State's like $3 billion, which puts that up there with some pretty serious players and some pretty, pretty major industries that ...

And I don't think sport fishing necessarily gets a fair shake for the amount of economic benefit that it's driving to Washington State.

It's like 17,000 jobs that it supports, and 275 million in state and local tax revenue, and that, that's pr- probably one of my biggest frustrations with the whole fisheries advocacy thing is other sectors-I'm not picking on anybody, say, the commercial sector.

Well, that fishery's worth X amount, and I, I rarely hear that argument made for the rec side of things.

And I would love to see the department when they're looking at cutting a fishery or adding a fishery where they say, "Hey, we're gonna add these.

We believe that'll equal X amount of angler trips, which will be this, the X amount of economic benefit." And it's probably a metric and a calculation we should be looking at all of our fisheries when we're proposing new fisheries or closing of existing fisheries if they said, "Well, we had to cut this season short.

That's X amount of lost economic benefit associated with that." And, and we've made some asks for that in the past.

With, like, let's say a commercial fishery, what's your ex-vessel landing value is of how much that, what they, what the processor wrote the fish ticket for, or the fish buyer wrote the fish ticket for, and then how much economic activity was around the processing and all that, and there, it, there's a lot more gray area, I think, with sportfishing.

But we could get there and figure it out and get pretty dang close if we really wanted to.

I think that makes a lot of sense, and just curious of your opinion, why do you think that doesn't already exist?

I think, and I'll probably this blame goes on all of us in the sport fish- fishing industry, but we haven't advocated hard enough for it.

It's, I think the general public looks at it like, "Oh, well, people go recreational fishing just for fun."

"That, that's a hobby." It not, oh, it actually supports the livelihoods of a lot of people, 16,700 or whatever in Washington State.
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