Jun 3, 2026 · 49 min · 12 segments
In this episode, we're putting modern love on trial. From the dehumanising scroll of dating apps to the stigma of divorce, the impossible checklist we bring to first dates, and the conditioning that…
Alex YappsGuest
Jasmin BedirHost
Carly PelhamHost
Jen DobbieHost
Yeah, I think it's so important, right? Because the divorce enthusiast thing, although it sounds really weird in 2026 to say out loud, I still think there is quite a stigma around divorce.
I think there's still quite a lot of negativity around it, particularly from the friends I've seen who've been going through it recently.
I love that you're like, look, if there's negativity around it, I'm just going to like go the full opposite and really say, look, it happens.
There's huge amounts of shame, I think, attached to it, right? Shame and failure.
If we look at marriage as kind of one of the ultimate milestones and goals in life, of course, when you get divorced, it's going to be seen as a failure.
We can still go out and have fun and it doesn't have to be horrible and serious.
Look, I've not been divorced, but I do follow a lot of kind of Instagram accounts like what the fuck divorce, which is hilarious if you don't follow it.
But I think there's also this thing of who am I now? What is my identity? So I think a lot of the time, rather than people from an external standpoint looking at you saying you failed, it's actually a lot of it is more intrinsic as to who am I now? Yeah, it really comes from within, I think, a lot of the judgment.
So we have pre-marriage here, post-marriage, during marriage, and then we have our divorce enthusiast here, right? Yes.
This is also, we have to say this, possibly the best podcast name of all times when you have your name.
Yeah, I think it's so important, right? Because the divorce enthusiast thing, although it sounds really weird in 2026 to say out loud, I still think there is quite a stigma around divorce.
I think there's still quite a lot of negativity around it, particularly from the friends I've seen who've been going through it recently.
I love that you're like, look, if there's negativity around it, I'm just going to like go the full opposite and really say, look, it happens.
There's huge amounts of shame, I think, attached to it, right? Shame and failure.
If we look at marriage as kind of one of the ultimate milestones and goals in life, of course, when you get divorced, it's going to be seen as a failure.
We can still go out and have fun and it doesn't have to be horrible and serious.
Look, I've not been divorced, but I do follow a lot of kind of Instagram accounts like what the fuck divorce, which is hilarious if you don't follow it.
But I think there's also this thing of who am I now? What is my identity? So I think a lot of the time, rather than people from an external standpoint looking at you saying you failed, it's actually a lot of it is more intrinsic as to who am I now? Yeah, it really comes from within, I think, a lot of the judgment.
So we have pre-marriage here, post-marriage, during marriage, and then we have our divorce enthusiast here, right? Yes.
This is also, we have to say this, possibly the best podcast name of all times when you have your name.
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