Fck being invisible with Kylie Jones

Like the first time I remember anyone even mentioning women Like anything to do with aging in the way of menopause or perimenopause was my best friend who's a little older than me.

She's like nine years older than me.

And she started talking about it.

And then I sort of realized, wow, this is like a whole stage of life that no one's talked about.

That was sort of five or six years ago.

I remember the first year at South by Southwest Sydney.

So it's like three years ago.

Mm-hmm.

Naomi Watts came and talked about, is it Stripe? Yeah, Stripe.

So

I've spoken quite a bit to her and with the Stripe product, yes.

She's doing amazing things in the space.

I was

talking about that, but still, even then.

What is Stripe? I don't know about this.

She's got her own product line and they're amazing because she's come out and said, yes, this all happens, but let's have an open conversation about them.

And from a brand perspective, they're brilliant.

Like she has a lube that's called Slip and Slide and then she's got a Vagivonna, which is a – I'm just going to be really honest here.

These are her products.

But it's a vagina cream that, you know, keeps you all moist.

Like she has these really honest conversations.

And I think she made it quite cool to have those conversations versus hiding behind it all.

I think so.

And I

think that was the first sense that I had of a form of positivity around it.