Extraordinary Leadership PODCAST
Jun 18, 2026 · 36 min · 11 segments
What if the relationships you're not nurturing are the exact doors that strategy alone can never open? In this episode, Dagmara sits down with Gautam Ganglani, a Strategic Connector, Author, Speaker…
Gautam GanglaniGuest
Dagmara AsbreukHost
So what makes relationships meaningful and how do we build them based on your philosophy you applied and then you put it in your book and they are wonderful stories.

You may share some of them to inspire others what's possible, I guess, also by following that philosophy.

But maybe let's start with unpacking how do you define what meaningful relationships are?

I mean, to me, meaningful relationships are all about, boils down to how you communicate.

I'll use simplistic examples to illustrate the distinction between connecting with someone and what I term as breaking bread.



Time permitting, you'll reply to some of them or you'll just click like, because you're like, there's 200 of these, how do I reply everybody? But when you receive a message from me, it would be either a voice note, either a video, either a photograph of you and me in this podcast and me wishing you happy birthday, or even better still, a phone call.

Now, all of those four ways of communicating tells you, Dagmara, Gautam has taken some time.

So what makes relationships meaningful and how do we build them based on your philosophy you applied and then you put it in your book and they are wonderful stories.

You may share some of them to inspire others what's possible, I guess, also by following that philosophy.

But maybe let's start with unpacking how do you define what meaningful relationships are?

I mean, to me, meaningful relationships are all about, boils down to how you communicate.

I'll use simplistic examples to illustrate the distinction between connecting with someone and what I term as breaking bread.



Time permitting, you'll reply to some of them or you'll just click like, because you're like, there's 200 of these, how do I reply everybody? But when you receive a message from me, it would be either a voice note, either a video, either a photograph of you and me in this podcast and me wishing you happy birthday, or even better still, a phone call.

Now, all of those four ways of communicating tells you, Dagmara, Gautam has taken some time.
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