Sep 29, 2026 · 30 min · 10 segments
Continuing the hire slow conversation from the last two episodes, Lisa unpacks the other half of the saying, "fire fast," drawing on Priya Parker's *The Art of Gathering* to reframe exclusion as…
Lisa CatalloHost
So the last couple of episodes were about hiring slow because that term, that saying, hire slow, fire fast, is something that I will use quite often.

I have tried to find out who started that saying, could not find it, but it is applicable for us, even if we have contractors, if you have renters, and if you have employees.

And so why? Why is this important? We talked about hiring slow being important for the culture, for understanding what your clients need and the whole picture.

Along the same lines is because you care about all of the components, care about your clients, you care about your team, the business and about your energy.

And so I actually wanted to start with there's a woman out there, Priya Parker, that wrote the book, The Art of Gathering.

And I go back to her book so often because even though she talks about groups and talks about weddings and showers and all kinds of different ways of doing groups together.

So many of the components of what she shares in there are important for us to consider as a group practice on her.

And one of the things that has really stuck with me is how important exclusion is.

It's just as important about who am I excluding from this group as who am I including in this group.

But if you think about the target or ideal client for your group practice, you think about the culture that you are wanting your group to have, you think about how you show up as the best leader.

This isn't excluding just because I want to be really picky or I want to be elitist.

This is how do we do our best work? How do we serve the clients who are finding us the best? And so especially in a saturated market, you want to be able to stand out.

You can't have all of the personalities and modalities and all of that in your group practice because it's important to identify who you're serving and who actually isn't the best for who you are serving.

She talks about, first of all, general exclusion helps to clarify and distill your gathering or your business's purpose.

And so I am very clear on my website and in my bio that when I am working, when I am offering services to patients, clinical clients, I am speaking very clearly to women who are a certain age because I am not actually going to be good for those teens.

So the last couple of episodes were about hiring slow because that term, that saying, hire slow, fire fast, is something that I will use quite often.

I have tried to find out who started that saying, could not find it, but it is applicable for us, even if we have contractors, if you have renters, and if you have employees.

And so why? Why is this important? We talked about hiring slow being important for the culture, for understanding what your clients need and the whole picture.

Along the same lines is because you care about all of the components, care about your clients, you care about your team, the business and about your energy.

And so I actually wanted to start with there's a woman out there, Priya Parker, that wrote the book, The Art of Gathering.

And I go back to her book so often because even though she talks about groups and talks about weddings and showers and all kinds of different ways of doing groups together.

So many of the components of what she shares in there are important for us to consider as a group practice on her.

And one of the things that has really stuck with me is how important exclusion is.

It's just as important about who am I excluding from this group as who am I including in this group.

But if you think about the target or ideal client for your group practice, you think about the culture that you are wanting your group to have, you think about how you show up as the best leader.

This isn't excluding just because I want to be really picky or I want to be elitist.

This is how do we do our best work? How do we serve the clients who are finding us the best? And so especially in a saturated market, you want to be able to stand out.

You can't have all of the personalities and modalities and all of that in your group practice because it's important to identify who you're serving and who actually isn't the best for who you are serving.

She talks about, first of all, general exclusion helps to clarify and distill your gathering or your business's purpose.

And so I am very clear on my website and in my bio that when I am working, when I am offering services to patients, clinical clients, I am speaking very clearly to women who are a certain age because I am not actually going to be good for those teens.
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