Jason Allum on Bedrock

I mean, it's like the, uh, the amazingness of, like, the BEAM or Erlang too, like, the problems they solved back in the '80s are recurring problems now with AI and agents and processes, whatever you might need.

Right.

You see, I mean...

And then the BEAM is, I mean, to refresh people's memory, it's like almost 40 years old.

Like, it's been around for a hot minute.

Yeah.

And so you have these things where, like, the, the underpinnings of it, some of the stuff has changed underneath, right? But the basic way that it works is fairly, fairly s- you know, locked in.

And you have these, this idea where you have small processes, you have, you know, sh- not shared memory so they can do whatever they want with their little, their little corner of the universe, and then they trade things with messages.

Like, this has become a, a, a really powerful pattern, and it works well for all kinds of the more modern problems, not just dealing with telephone switches or whatever it was that they built it for originally.

So yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, it's a really kind of interesting model.

I mean, you see different...

It's one of the things I like about different languages and things is you can try on a different head space, right? Like, there's a different way of thinking that goes with each one of these things.

You have the BEAM, and there's a certain way of thinking that goes along with it.

You got Go or Rust or C++, any of these other things, right? And there's a, a, a, a, just kind of a head space that goes along with it, and it's kind of fun to try them on a little bit.

'Cause you can-

Mm

... pick up things from one place and bring them to another, right? Like, I just had a, a Rust project I was working on and I brought Elixir style telemetry over to it because it made it easier to, to, to get at certain problems, you know? And it's, it's interesting that sometimes people don't play with things that are outside of their normal wheelhouse, and I think they miss out a little bit because there's interesting ways to solve problems, and if you don't look, you don't see.

Do you know what I mean?

I was better at that when I was younger, and for whatever reason-

Hmm

... now I just wanna be a cranky old man and stay in my own bubble.

[laughs]

I hear you.

No, it's fun and it's nice.

I mean, immutable data, I mean, just being able to think about the, "I put that there, it's gonna stay there.