165 | The Tension Is a Sign of Life: Creativity, Fear & Living the Dream (Ft. Rob Bell)

What if the tension, fear and disruption you're experiencing aren't signs that something has gone wrong, but signs that you're fully alive? Rob Bell has been my #1 DREAM podcast guest for years. His work, particularly Everything Is Spiritual, has profoundly shaped the way I think about creativity, spirituality, making things and living my life. And eventually, I decided it was time to stop waiting for "one day" and simply make the invitation. And here we are. In this episode of Dream Makers, Claire Byrt sits down with New York Times bestselling author, speaker, artist and creator Rob Bell for a deeply human conversation about creativity, fear, spirituality, dreams, money, uncertainty, wonder and awe, and what it actually means to create a life that feels like your own. Rob shares why new creation is inherently disruptive, why fear doesn't need to disappear before we move, and why there is always risk in both directions, including the risk of standing at a distance from your own life. Together, Claire and Rob explore the difference between dreaming and building, why you probably already have what you need to take the next step, and how putting too much pressure on a new idea can crush it before it has a chance to grow. They explore the idea that creativity isn't reserved for artists, writers or entrepreneurs. We are all creating our lives through what we give our time, money, attention and energy to. And sometimes, the thing you feel called to create doesn't need a business case, an ROI or even a rational explanation. The fact that you care about it might be reason enough to follow it. The conversation also goes somewhere deeper, into parenting, money, ambition, creativity and the impossible fantasy of eventually arriving at a frictionless life where everything is finally sorted. Maybe the tension isn't something to solve. Maybe it's a sign of life. And maybe, while you're waiting for the dream to arrive, it's worth looking around and asking: What if this is it? What if I'm already living it? This is a conversation about listening to your life, trusting what keeps tugging on your sleeve, taking the next step without knowing where it will lead, and cultivating wonder and awe for the ordinary, sacred life happening right now. An episode for anyone building something, changing something, questioning something, or standing at the edge of the unknown wondering whether they have the courage to move. Listen to it. Come back to it. And send it to someone who's building a dream of their own. Find Rob Bell: https://robbell.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/realrobbell and https://www.patreon.com/robbell GET YOUR COPY HERE. Let Your Vision Be Bigger Than Your Bullsh\*t. Get brave, stop doubting, make the dream real. GET STARTED TODAY Seven days DREAM to DONE. On-demand. Self-paced. Seven days of powerful recordings and worksheets to help you lay down the fear, resistance and overthinking - and start building your dream in just 7 days.