Sep 8, 2026 · 1 hr 14 min · 14 segments
In this episode of Dog Trainers UnPACT, Steve sits down with Zaynab Bukhari, founder of Dogs on Track. Zaynab shares her journey from childhood bird watching and a passion for wolves to becoming a…
Zainab BukhariGuest
Steve GoodallHost
And yeah, again, I mean, I, so a thing that's come up a lot on this podcast is, is how we as trainers or maybe like an organization, a bit like pact, for example, kind of, Let people know that, that this is a career, you know, like you said, like lucky enough, you had your dad on your side, you know, like, like helping you out and any sort of like little bits, sparks of interest he would kind of encourage.
But I'm guessing at your school, you didn't have any kind of like people come in being like, Oh, you could be a dog trainer or anything along those lines.
no I didn't and it's and like I also do um things now where I take dogs into schools and one of the biggest things is like
school teachers and stuff saying oh you know what you should do like I've had students like oh you should bring dogs to like career days and things like that and and like and I thought yeah that's really fast like fundraisers now I'm like trying to like broaden it more because I've had you know younger children who um literally looked like me and they're like oh my god I want to do it but I just I just I didn't even know that was a thing I didn't even know you could work with dogs I thought you just pet them and move on and I find that I just it was sad but great like that we can slowly start doing it and like parents are starting being like this is an acceptable job not just a random hobby she's picked out that yeah I do think yeah in in school even in college like it wasn't dog training wasn't a thing it wasn't like a career path.
And then when you start looking into what that entails, that's quite a lot of work.
That's really, that's really cool though, because the really cool that you are out there, like actually on the front lines in the school, sort of like doing these kinds of things at the moment.
Cause I feel like the more representation as an industry and obviously representation culturally as well, because people, if they don't see or don't look or get to talk to anyone, they don't know it's an option.
And yeah, again, I mean, I, so a thing that's come up a lot on this podcast is, is how we as trainers or maybe like an organization, a bit like pact, for example, kind of, Let people know that, that this is a career, you know, like you said, like lucky enough, you had your dad on your side, you know, like, like helping you out and any sort of like little bits, sparks of interest he would kind of encourage.
But I'm guessing at your school, you didn't have any kind of like people come in being like, Oh, you could be a dog trainer or anything along those lines.
no I didn't and it's and like I also do um things now where I take dogs into schools and one of the biggest things is like
school teachers and stuff saying oh you know what you should do like I've had students like oh you should bring dogs to like career days and things like that and and like and I thought yeah that's really fast like fundraisers now I'm like trying to like broaden it more because I've had you know younger children who um literally looked like me and they're like oh my god I want to do it but I just I just I didn't even know that was a thing I didn't even know you could work with dogs I thought you just pet them and move on and I find that I just it was sad but great like that we can slowly start doing it and like parents are starting being like this is an acceptable job not just a random hobby she's picked out that yeah I do think yeah in in school even in college like it wasn't dog training wasn't a thing it wasn't like a career path.
And then when you start looking into what that entails, that's quite a lot of work.
That's really, that's really cool though, because the really cool that you are out there, like actually on the front lines in the school, sort of like doing these kinds of things at the moment.
Cause I feel like the more representation as an industry and obviously representation culturally as well, because people, if they don't see or don't look or get to talk to anyone, they don't know it's an option.
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