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Deep Future

I was Born of Revolutions — Marc Porat 1/4

Aug 31, 2026 · 15 min · 8 segments

I wanted this conversation to start with personal technology, not gadget nostalgia. Marc traces information as power from family history through Stanford, Apple, and General Magic — and why he refuses…

I wanted this conversation to start with personal technology, not gadget nostalgia. Marc traces information as power from family history through Stanford, Apple, and General Magic — and why he refuses to be treated as a consumer. Part 1 of 4 is the origin story: revolutions, media, and the idea that the tools in our hands should help us live a meaningful life, not just buy more stuff.

I wanted this conversation to start with personal technology, not gadget nostalgia. Marc traces information as power from family history through Stanford, Apple, and General Magic — and why he refuses…

Speakers: Marc PoratGuestPablos HolmanHost

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it's almost crass.

Pablos HolmanHost

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They refer to people as consumers.

Pablos HolmanHost

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I'm not a fucking consumer.

Pablos HolmanHost

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I'm not here to just consume anything.

Pablos HolmanHost

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I'm a person and I have I want to have a meaning to my life, you know, and I want these tools to help me with that.

Pablos HolmanHost

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I've never met anyone like him.

Pablos HolmanHost

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He could hack anybody's phone in a matter of minutes.

Pablos HolmanHost

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Who is

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that guy? Who

Pablos HolmanHost

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can do that?

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Thomas is the most interesting man in the world.

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He's one of my favorite people on the planet.

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Inventor.

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Wicked

Pablos HolmanHost

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smart.

Pablos HolmanHost

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A master.

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He had a dead body

Pablos HolmanHost

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and you're trying to collude your phone.

Pablos HolmanHost

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He would get arrested immediately in a lineup.

Pablos HolmanHost

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I shouldn't lie.

Pablos HolmanHost

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He did his autograph.

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You know, his mouth can barely keep up his brain.

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I don't actually know what Pavlos does.

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A hacker magician.

Pablos HolmanHost

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Man of the future.

Pablos HolmanHost

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Future.

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Future.

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Future.

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