Jul 17, 2026 · 45 min · 13 segments
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Nina JagannathanGuest
David WelbornHost
Jessie LizakHost
One of my first real exposures to anything quantum at all is this warning I get when I log in, when I SSH to a Linux instance, and it warns me that the encryption that I'm using at the moment is not future-proof, meaning that in the near future quantum computing will be able to hack it.

and that was my first exposure to that do you have any words of advice for that sort of thing

yeah i mean and it's funny you should say that that is pretty much what got me down that rabbit hole of quantum computing and quantum risk in the first place is i read an article like over a year ago and i'm late to the game in that respect um and that basically a lot of the many of the encryption methodologies, analogs, are not going to be, they're going to be able to be hacked.

And so basically with quantum governance as well as AI, and we'll get to all those, the governance piece is foundational.

Do you want to keep protecting it? How important is it? Who owns it? And if you have that solid foundation and that background, back to first principles, if you have all that in place, then you're going to be able to know what to do with it.

So in the quantum example, so basically you need to know the lay of the land.

What is it? What makes it important? What business decision does it drive? In addition to that, you need to understand who owns it.

And how long do you want to protect it for? If it's one of those things that we're going to be moving on to something else, okay, fine.

So it's like basically in all different forms of data, you need to understand It's basically control.

And then once you know what it is and how it's currently being protected, work with companies to put the new algorithms, the new encryption protocols in place.

And that's a thing that quantum is not going to be for another, you know, whatever, 20 years, 15 years.

We don't, it isn't a, There's a lot of advisement about 2029, a lot of advisement 2030.

One of my first real exposures to anything quantum at all is this warning I get when I log in, when I SSH to a Linux instance, and it warns me that the encryption that I'm using at the moment is not future-proof, meaning that in the near future quantum computing will be able to hack it.

and that was my first exposure to that do you have any words of advice for that sort of thing

yeah i mean and it's funny you should say that that is pretty much what got me down that rabbit hole of quantum computing and quantum risk in the first place is i read an article like over a year ago and i'm late to the game in that respect um and that basically a lot of the many of the encryption methodologies, analogs, are not going to be, they're going to be able to be hacked.

And so basically with quantum governance as well as AI, and we'll get to all those, the governance piece is foundational.

Do you want to keep protecting it? How important is it? Who owns it? And if you have that solid foundation and that background, back to first principles, if you have all that in place, then you're going to be able to know what to do with it.

So in the quantum example, so basically you need to know the lay of the land.

What is it? What makes it important? What business decision does it drive? In addition to that, you need to understand who owns it.

And how long do you want to protect it for? If it's one of those things that we're going to be moving on to something else, okay, fine.

So it's like basically in all different forms of data, you need to understand It's basically control.

And then once you know what it is and how it's currently being protected, work with companies to put the new algorithms, the new encryption protocols in place.

And that's a thing that quantum is not going to be for another, you know, whatever, 20 years, 15 years.

We don't, it isn't a, There's a lot of advisement about 2029, a lot of advisement 2030.
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