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so we we're just getting to know each other so so that's part our relationship and that's what brought you in this kitchen today okay next question is so it's a two-part question so how would you how would you pippa describe your relationship with death and what i mean by that i mean both your own death and i'm i'm gesturing for those that can't see me i'm separating this out so your own death and the death of loved ones because it's a two-fold question

Okay, when you gave me the questions, I sort of read that slightly differently.

Okay, so how did

you read it?

Well, you said, how do you describe your relationship with death? And I instantly went to my work.

Okay, tell me about

that.

So I just thought about what it's like to be a drama therapist working with death every day and how that affects me as a person.

I guess the initial thoughts I had was what an honour it is to be at that threshold with somebody who is...

Going to a place that I'm not at yet.

And yeah, just how poignant it is to spend time with someone in that space.

But also someone that's losing someone that's important to them or has lost somebody.

So I think a lot of people say, how can you do that job? It's really hard.

It's really morbid.

And I just think it's such an honor to do that work.

But also it just teaches me about living well.

So I find it the most inspiring thing to be thinking about death.

And maybe people think it's very morbid.

It can shut down conversations, dinner parties.

But I find it really exciting to talk about death because it informs us how to live well and how to prepare to die well, too.

I think it's really important.

So that was what I first thought when you asked me that question on paper.

It was more about my work.

Yeah, and I really, I think in part, it's why this podcast has arisen for me is, as you say, the conversation, the conversation around death that can bring dinner parties.

Oh gosh, yeah, I had that