Jul 9, 2026 · 24 min · 11 segments
Welcome to Inside Applied Data Governance, a DATAVERSITY Talks podcast where we explore the practical realities of data governance with the experts who helped build the Applied Data Governance…
John LadleyGuestBarbara NeshawHostFrom your perspective, why is establishing value and ROI for data governance so important for organizations?

Well, we said in the prior two podcasts, you've got to Talk about governing data from a standpoint of value and benefit to the organization.

And the only way an organization understands that is to talk about it in numerical terms.

It's like we talked about, if we want to communicate with leadership, they don't need to learn Technobabble.

We have to learn to talk in terms of, well, we did these certain data oversight capabilities, which enabled certain business things, and that added value to the organization.

Bottom line benefit of an overhead function is, from an accounting standpoint, not permitted.

They're treating it as another project that's got an ROI on it with a cash flow or something.

You are enabling other resources and your value comes from seamlessly and efficiently and cost-effectively enabling these other capabilities.

And any good business person will tell you that a good back office team is invaluable to the front lines, right? And they can be measured.
From your perspective, why is establishing value and ROI for data governance so important for organizations?

Well, we said in the prior two podcasts, you've got to Talk about governing data from a standpoint of value and benefit to the organization.

And the only way an organization understands that is to talk about it in numerical terms.

It's like we talked about, if we want to communicate with leadership, they don't need to learn Technobabble.

We have to learn to talk in terms of, well, we did these certain data oversight capabilities, which enabled certain business things, and that added value to the organization.

Bottom line benefit of an overhead function is, from an accounting standpoint, not permitted.

They're treating it as another project that's got an ROI on it with a cash flow or something.

You are enabling other resources and your value comes from seamlessly and efficiently and cost-effectively enabling these other capabilities.

And any good business person will tell you that a good back office team is invaluable to the front lines, right? And they can be measured.
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