Oct 11, 2026 · 1 hr 9 min · 12 segments
Ballots are out, the Blue Book is thicker than ever, and this year Colorado voters are being asked to act as legislators on 14 statewide measures. In this episode, Henry and Scott go through every one…
Henry SobanetHost
81 has to do with immigration enforcement, local law enforcement, and federal law.

And as I've taken in the different yeses and nos arguments, I feel like this adds a lot of burden to our local law enforcement, even if you think enforcement of immigration laws is important, which I do.

So it's going to be very inflexible to make it fine-tuned to the extent there could be fine-tuning.
And there's no question that this issue of how we enforce immigration in this country and how intrusive law enforcement should be has become a major issue.
And this idea that we are now like requiring law enforcement officials across the state to to coordinate with the federal government on immigration issues.
In practice, especially when you have a federal government that I think has weaponized immigration and been so disruptive uh to communities including here in the state of colorado and you know i'll just say like you know i i work with um you know one county in particular when when the feds swoop in and say you know we're looking for undocumented immigrants the amount of disruption that it creates for communities um is really is really something schools uh lock their doors kids don't come to school shops shut down And I think the other thing that's so important here, and this theme is going to come up on a couple of different measures, and this might be like a philosophical difference perhaps between you and I on some other issues, is that there are like second and third order impacts, right? When you create a situation where law enforcement cannot be trusted by everyone in the community, you make it very hard for people to come forward to talk about other kinds of crimes and other kinds of things that are happening in the community.
And so I think it is appropriate at different times for local law enforcement and state law enforcement to coordinate with the federal government on immigration, but not with an edict in the state constitution like this.

And one of my philosophies as I was trying to figure out how am I gonna talk about this publicly and it'll be on the internet forever is, you know, people don't have to take the bait.

I'm mostly with you or I'm mostly not with you, but I'm not going to participate.

I don't think there's a single issue on this ballot where there's a literal fire that has to get put out.

This time, this is your only chance to work on it, and this is our only option.

81 has to do with immigration enforcement, local law enforcement, and federal law.

And as I've taken in the different yeses and nos arguments, I feel like this adds a lot of burden to our local law enforcement, even if you think enforcement of immigration laws is important, which I do.

So it's going to be very inflexible to make it fine-tuned to the extent there could be fine-tuning.
And there's no question that this issue of how we enforce immigration in this country and how intrusive law enforcement should be has become a major issue.
And this idea that we are now like requiring law enforcement officials across the state to to coordinate with the federal government on immigration issues.
In practice, especially when you have a federal government that I think has weaponized immigration and been so disruptive uh to communities including here in the state of colorado and you know i'll just say like you know i i work with um you know one county in particular when when the feds swoop in and say you know we're looking for undocumented immigrants the amount of disruption that it creates for communities um is really is really something schools uh lock their doors kids don't come to school shops shut down And I think the other thing that's so important here, and this theme is going to come up on a couple of different measures, and this might be like a philosophical difference perhaps between you and I on some other issues, is that there are like second and third order impacts, right? When you create a situation where law enforcement cannot be trusted by everyone in the community, you make it very hard for people to come forward to talk about other kinds of crimes and other kinds of things that are happening in the community.
And so I think it is appropriate at different times for local law enforcement and state law enforcement to coordinate with the federal government on immigration, but not with an edict in the state constitution like this.

And one of my philosophies as I was trying to figure out how am I gonna talk about this publicly and it'll be on the internet forever is, you know, people don't have to take the bait.

I'm mostly with you or I'm mostly not with you, but I'm not going to participate.

I don't think there's a single issue on this ballot where there's a literal fire that has to get put out.

This time, this is your only chance to work on it, and this is our only option.
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